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re: Stuff that Les does that Aggravates me

Posted on 11/15/11 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

good quarterbacks play on bad teams


No doubt

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bad quarterbacks play on teams that do win


Who?

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football is the ultimate team sport, and saying so-and-so qb is better because his record is _____ as a starter is a completely worthless statement.


No, its not worthless. 99.9% of all offensive plays start with the QB. He has to make a ton of decisions. How many times have you heard the NFL described as a QB driven league? There is reason it is described as such!

You can win with an average to great QB. You can't win with a dumb arse horrible QB.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 2:58 pm to
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your opinion is that you're fine with JJ starting/playing more than Lee.


It was WKU...who cares who started/played more snaps??

If JL is soooooooo hurt/shaken by not starting a meaningless game, shame on him.

I know this is conjecture, but I don't think we beat Bama without JJ.

You think the LSU staff might have said after that game, the best thing for LSU would be for us to get JJ lots of work vs. wku?

How bout we just wake up and smell the coffee cause we don't have a star QB or one who has proven, to this point in time, that he can do everything that's needed for LSU to be a champion. imo

Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
4715 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 3:08 pm to
This is what aggravates me about this fanbase. Every fricking fan feels entitled to give our head coach a coaching lesson and be "aggravated" with his decisions. Well, newsflash. We are 10-0, we are the unanimous and undisputed #1 team in the land, and our coach is one of the best and highest paid coaches in the country, and rightfully so. So please, leave the coaching decisions to our damn strong head coach. He is the head coach at LSU. He will be the head coach at LSU. He has a championship game to play in, and he's excited about the opportunity of his damn strong football team to play in it.
Thank you very much. Have a great day.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85670 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 3:08 pm to
The problem with ur argument is lee isnt a great qb. JJ and lee are not and never will be on trent dilfers level, let alone archie manning.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33253 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 3:36 pm to
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Name coaches with full disclosure in their program.

Im really interested in seeing this list.

Hell, just name one.

Good point, there may be one or two. Saban does a terrible analysis of his team to the fans. Richt here in UGA country is actually pretty good as far as communication. But I'm not a UGA or Bama fan, so I don't care. I care about the Tigers.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33253 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 3:39 pm to
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This is what aggravates me about this fanbase. Every fricking fan feels entitled to give our head coach a coaching lesson and be "aggravated" with his decisions
I think it's fans just venting more than anything else. I just find it so amusing that guys like you and Uncommon and Bee take it so seriously, as if we are personally insulting yo mama because we have some dissatisfaction with the program. It's a hard discussion, almost like having an argument within your own family, you're allowed to be brutally honest and even critical, but don't go outside the family or allow a Bama fan to do it.
Posted by tigerprl
DFW
Member since Dec 2010
1278 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 3:46 pm to
Amen!
Les is like EF Hutton, when he speaks everybody listens.
thing is you got to listen really closely cause it is in les speak after all. Therefore if you haven't been listening closey for several years you got no idea what the hell he just said. but you can be sure the people on this board know exactly what he is talking about with his strong team and their want to win
yes i drank the cool aid and do like the guy.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14533 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 3:54 pm to
Well, he can't do any better than 10-0.


So be happy.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 4:00 pm to
Les comes from the era of Bo and Woody. They had fierce rivalry games for years that spawned some very secretive borderline paranoid tendencies with regard to how each handled the outflow of info about their teams. Les obviously subscribes to that point of view.

Thats why Gilbleaux doesnt like him. Tough shite.....thats what Les wants and he has earned the right to run HIS team any way he sees fit.


For those who dont like it.....I say

DEAL WITH IT

Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 4:09 pm to
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I think it's fans just venting more than anything else. I just find it so amusing that guys like you and Uncommon and Bee take it so seriously, as if we are personally insulting yo mama because we have some dissatisfaction with the program. It's a hard discussion, almost like having an argument within your own family, you're allowed to be brutally honest and even critical, but don't go outside the family or allow a Bama fan to do it.


How do you feel about a person that decides it's ok to criticize the team or the coaches yet gets his/her back up when they are criticized for doing it?
Doesn't that smack of hypocrisy to you? Are criticizers immune from criticism? I would think that the opposite is true. If one feels the need to criticize then he is opening the door for a critical response.
Agree or disagree?
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2154 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 4:39 pm to
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No, its not worthless. 99.9% of all offensive plays start with the QB. He has to make a ton of decisions. How many times have you heard the NFL described as a QB driven league? There is reason it is described as such!


Tebo may be changing some of that opinion regarding the NFL..... just saying. No one calls him average to great as a passer. Yet, he is a winner.

quote:

You can win with an average to great QB. You can't win with a dumb arse horrible QB.
And the Tebo argument would continue here.....

My feelings don't get hurt when Ford scores and not Ware.... and my feelings don't get hurt when JJ plays and not Lee (and you can switch the order on both sets of names). Just win. So far, LSU and Miles have been perfect at that this year. So enjoy. If LSU loses this year-- all hell will break loose-- Until then
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:11 pm to
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ummm...Ford has 35 more carries than Blue and the same yards/carry
...

um because he gets in vs western kentucky...gimmie a break dude, i know the OP is just flaming, but he's spot on...
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

i know the OP is just flaming, but he's spot on...


Which is it?
Flaming or spot on?
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:14 pm to
Les has a lot of pleasing to do!
Posted by BGSB
Opelousas
Member since Jan 2010
2257 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:18 pm to
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Yeah what really gets on my nerves is that damn 10-0 record and the unanimous #1 position in all the polls i mean what the frick kinda coach does that?!!


yeah, I bet ur dumbass will disappear if this team loses 2 out of the next 3, fcking rantards like you will sit here for hours guarding aginst anything objective being written
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:18 pm to
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Les has a lot of pleasing to do!

Considering that he is currently the coach of the number 1 ranked team in the country, it's hard to see how he can improve on that.

Reading all of this is a lot like listening to the guys in the mailroom gripe about how the CEO of the company is running things and how they would do better if they could only get out of the mailroom.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:24 pm to
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yeah, I bet ur dumbass will disappear if this team loses 2 out of the next 3, fcking rantards like you will sit here for hours guarding aginst anything objective being written


The problem with that is that objective things are rarely written. Most of it is more like crying because the complainers aren't seeing the plays, players and scores that THEY want to see.
It is more like they are hurt because their personal goals aren't being met.
I am having a hard time believing that some guy that works in a chemical plant along the river has the indepth football knowlege to write an objective, informed and accurate criticism.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:30 pm to
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Which is it? Flaming or spot on?


he's spot on, but I try not to bitch about it too much unless I see ignorance from someone saying "JJ won the Bama Game"
Posted by TigeratLA
LosAngeles, CA
Member since Dec 2007
161 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:34 pm to
Dude,
Although I do not totally disagree with your post, I have to say that Les is trying to instill competition in the minds of the QBs & RBs. By this way I guess he is throwing the starting position up for grabs.
Also I see that he is trying to distribute the carries to all the RBs so that everyone can see some playing time and the best performer on a particular Saturday gets the nod for more carries. I don't see that as a problem and as long as we taste success. However with regards to QBs I definitely see that JL being sidelined a little bit. Also Les may be thinking that JL is not able to handle pressure when the pocket collapses. On the other hand JJ is mobile and is able to elude tacklers.

We will have to wait and see if his formula translates to a NC for LSU
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 5:36 pm to
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he's spot on, but I try not to bitch about it too much unless I see ignorance from someone saying "JJ won the Bama Game"


Then you agree with all of his poisitions?
Based upon what?

Did JL win any of the games?
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