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re: Steele vs. Chavis Statistics
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:56 pm to floridatiger420
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:56 pm to floridatiger420
Most people forget that our YPP under Chavis was 4.9 last year which wasn't really that impressive, our offense just made it look better because they had a top 5 TOP and opposing teams only had 60 plays per game against us. Considering that Steele had much less talent at Clemson and his defenses were on the field a LOT more and he still only gave up less than 5 YPP, my prediction is that he'll only give up 4.6-4.7 at LSU which is easily good enough to keep our defense elite. And we'll get the added bonus of getting to watch our players be aggressive and make big sacks/interceptions again 
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:05 pm to bulldogger
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Stats vs WVU?
Mo Claiborne saved Chavis arse in thst game with KO return. Momentum was all WV prior to that TD.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:36 pm to floridatiger420
There is really not a lot of difference, but a key statistic was not shown. That stat is pass completion percentage and passing yards per game against the D. Can you calculate that? Chavis's D was designed to keep pass completion percentage low and limit first downs. Steele's D is designed to create turnovers and TTL, interceptions and sacks.
But you are right in that Chavis had better personnel. IMO the success of the D depends more on the player quality than anything else. IMO the difference in the systems and sets they play are not nearly as significant as the D being in the set they should be in regardless of discipline and philosophy of the coaches for whatever anticipated Offense play they expect. Then good players will play it well and make the play regardless of the system. The only thing other than good is effort by the players.
But you are right in that Chavis had better personnel. IMO the success of the D depends more on the player quality than anything else. IMO the difference in the systems and sets they play are not nearly as significant as the D being in the set they should be in regardless of discipline and philosophy of the coaches for whatever anticipated Offense play they expect. Then good players will play it well and make the play regardless of the system. The only thing other than good is effort by the players.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:49 pm to OTIS2
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To believe we have taken a step back , until it's proven, is just as foolish. I , for one, am glad I won't have to watch a Chavis D give up a single late lead this season (unless I want to watch Tamu).
This. We'll see how it plays out, but I was tired of watching Chavis' defense find ways to lose games (or make games significantly closer than they should have been). Not sour grapes on my part. I have always believed the guy was overrated. Best of luck to him, but good riddance.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:26 pm to floridatiger420
quote:Not terribly surprised by these two.
Sacks Steele 33.33 Chavis 28.3
TFL Steele 94.4 Chavis 85
quote:Am surprised by this. Maybe a distorted by opponent? No matter. Hey, if you happen to have the forced turnovers (all types) I think that might be more representative.
Int Steele 16.7 Chavis 14.83
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:19 pm to Brood211
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Our recent defense kept us in games even with an inept offense. Yea, there was some games where we couldn't stop people late but without that defense we wouldn't have even been in the game in the late quarters. To believe we didn't take a step back in DC is foolish.... Until proven wrong.
It plays out overall. He will have more talent here than ever before, plus we just upgraded to elite status in DL coaching. Hopefully no more final drive collapses. We lost against Bama, Clemson, Bama, ND, Ole Miss, etc in the last 3 years on final drive collapses. While LSU's offense wasn't great, it's TOP aided the defense as well.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:25 pm to Bill77379
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IMO the success of the D depends more on the player quality than anything else.
you sir, have never seen a Lou Tepper coached defense.
I do, however, agree with your principle idea using only Chavis vs Steele's D scheme as examples.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:35 pm to Fratigerguy
LSU WVU
1st Downs 19 28
3rd down efficiency
8-16 7-17
4th down efficiency
0-0 1-2
Total Yds 366 533
Passing 180 463
Comp-Att
16-28 38-65
Yards per pass
6.4 7.1
Rushing
186 70
Rushing Attempts
41 22
Yards per rush
4.5 3.2
Penalties
5-45 10-73
Turnovers
0 4
Fumbles lost
0 2
Interceptions thrown
0 2
Possession
33:22 26:38
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:18 pm to Will2nd
He did more than just speak to Bill Clay, his name was on the athletic directory until there was public uprising.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:59 pm to ellessuuuu
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BATON ROUGE, La. -- LSU football coach Les Miles has hired six members of his former staff at Oklahoma State, and some have been recruiting and working for more than a week, LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said.
Miles has not completed his staff and has not decided what area each new coach will be coaching, but former Oklahoma State coaches now employed by LSU are: Bill Clay, Doug Mallory, Todd Monken, Larry Porter and Josh Henson.
quote:
Clay was the defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Oklahoma State, but he may not have that title at LSU.
Miles interviewed Cleveland Browns linebackers coach George Edwards for defensive coordinator this week and had plans to talk to former Dallas Cowboys head coach Dave Campo.
And you talk about revisionist history…
January 15, 2005
FYI
quote:
Les Miles was named LSU's 32nd head football coach on Jan. 3, 2005
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:05 pm to southeasttiger113
In 2007, Saban's first year at Bama, Steele was the DC. Alabama's defense finished 28th in total defense. In 2008, he was promoted to assistant HC. It will be interesting to see what he does with LSU talent because his only year as Bama's DC was with Shula's players.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:41 pm to ellessuuuu
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Steele is no Chavis, if you want to act like a child and pretend that he is because Chavis left, then knock yourself out
Except the facts don't say this. Steele's clemson defenses were ranked right with LSU in yards per play. Chavis benefitted immensely from out style of offense. Time of Possession is a huge factor in total defensive rankings. Last year we had one of the worst offenses in lsu history and the defense still wasn't on the field much.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:55 pm to floridatiger420
Stats are for figs and baseball fans.
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