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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:11 am to
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:11 am to
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Why do you only qualify a class by its offense and defense?


Miles got all Americans on defense, but his offensive prospects provided a high bust rate.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:14 am to
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8/25 players from the class already gone


Not abnormal

The 2016 class was similar.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:15 am to
They had that many leave in the first 12 months? Well then surely you have a link to that newsworthy story from Delly or Ron Higgins.


Or you’re just being disingenuous again and LSUs 2016 class lost that many over the course of 3 years, not 12 months.


Tomato, tomato.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:18 am to
As opposed to O’s first class where players on BOTH sides of the ball are entering the portal.

Cool!
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:22 am to
Okay, what does that have to do with O’s weak 2018 class? At some point trying to deflect to Miles won’t work anymore and that time approaches with each passing day.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 10:24 am
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:30 am to
If you’re comparing, which you Miles apologists love to do, 2018 is still better offensively.

Wire is a contributor
Chase is a starter
Many believe Rosenthal will grab a tackle spot this year
Marshall figures to be a huge contributor this year
Lewis is a starter
Hines is a starter

That’s one class of true freshmen (and a juco).

2016 classes produced Cushenberry as a starter. The three WRs are contributors but are behind Jefferson and Chase.

2015 provided Moreau and Brossette.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 10:37 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:36 am to
What’s a Miles apologist? I assume someone who makes excuses for why winning the SEC West, SEC, and National Championship are good things?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:38 am to
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What’s a Miles apologist?


You posters that make everything a comparison to Miles and then romanticize his last years at LSU.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:45 am to
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA

it’s the O fanbois who introduce Les into these threads, because their entire posturing is “well at least O saved the program from Miles’ implosion” (where he won 27 games from 2013-15 and it really should be 28, unless you think Miles was gonna lose to McNeese.)
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:50 am to
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Wire is a contributor Chase is a starter Many believe Rosenthal will grab a tackle spot this year Marshall figures to be a huge contributor this year Lewis is a starter Hines is a starter That’s one class of true freshmen (and a juco). 2016 classes produced Cushenberry as a starter. The three WRs are contributors but are behind Jefferson and Chase.


Wire is not a contributor.
Chase is not a starter.
No one believes Dare is beating out Deculus or Traore.
Hines is not a starter when Ingram returns.

Again, 2016 had 9 offensive players, 8 when you flip Devin White from RB to LB. you are either being disingenuous, or straight up lying.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:02 am to
Shut up.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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216476 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:02 am to
You still think Miles should be the coach.... that explains a lot.....
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:05 am to
I haven’t seen anywhere where he said that.

I’ve seen him use statistics to show how O hasn’t made any marked improvement since his arrival. I don’t think that means he thinks Miles should still be coaching.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:07 am to
You are not reading between the lines..... yes he still wishes Miles was coaching here..... and no matter how great O may do here he will look for anything to cut him down instead of praising him..... he NOT an LSU fan.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:13 am to
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Fisher is not the third best coach in the country. Neither is Kirby Smart this high either.
these comments always crack me up. People bitching about a team/player/coach being ranked "too high" yet fail to offer an alternative.

The funniest is when they single out 10 that are ranked "too high" then only 2 or three that are "too low."

You can make a case of why Jimbo shouldn't be at #3, but I'll make a better case for why who you think is #3 shouldn't be.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:15 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:18 am to
No I don’t. You should can it, you old coot.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:24 am to
Yes you do...... and I’ve asked this before with know answer..... should O be fired TODAY???? Just because YOU don’t like him..... give me an answer......
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:47 am to
Did I want Miles fired? Yes, at the end of 2015.
Did I want O hired? Hell no.
Would I prefer O to be replaced today? Yes.
Should O be fired today? Probably not. The answer will come after this season. Less than 10 wins in the regular season and yes he should be fired.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:53 am to
although Miles got fired going 9-3, it won't get O fired.

but it would put O on the hottest seat in America going into 2020.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:54 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:25 pm to
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should O be fired TODAY


I haven't seen anyone say this.
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