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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:58 am to Damone
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:58 am to Damone
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You’re now moving the goalposts. “There were more kickers than linebackers” is a lie. “There were more kickers than inside linebackers” is not. Was ILB a problem for the LSU defense? Was the inside linebacker depth the reason LSU didn’t compete for the SEC in 2017 and 2018?
I didn't set any goalposts to begin with. I was responding to Ricky's misinformation campaign. Aranda's statement about linebackers is not a rant-generated myth. He said it and it said it because he had two scholarship ILBs to work with during Spring camp 2017.
You can call it goalpost moving or you can whitewash it any other way that you want to. That's poor roster management.
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:59 am to The First Cut
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That's poor roster management.
Kind of like the RB, DL, and OL positions now.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:03 am to Damone
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Kind of like the RB
Wut
Have you looked at our roster recently?
Emery
Davis-Price
Curry
Clyde
Fournette
All could probably start at D1 schools.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 9:05 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:15 am to The Pirate King
Neither Emery nor Davis Price have taken a college snap. Four of those five players have combined college career statistics of:
20 carries for 108 yards and 1 TD
20 carries for 108 yards and 1 TD
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:28 am to Damone
So now we’re holding it against Ed that we don’t have a top flight RB right this second with 1000 yards? Lol
You can bitch about last year, but saying the RB position is in a bad place is foolish
You can bitch about last year, but saying the RB position is in a bad place is foolish
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:30 am to The Pirate King
I mean He’s been our HC since 2016 essentially.
We look good going forward with the RBs we got last class but he did let it get to this point.
We sorta need one of them to be very good very fast
We look good going forward with the RBs we got last class but he did let it get to this point.
We sorta need one of them to be very good very fast
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:31 am to 1999
:inb4#13&4wereatLSUatthesametime:
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:32 am to The Pirate King
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You can bitch about last year, but saying the RB position is in a bad place is foolish
I'm not going to say it's in a bad place, but it is definitely a bit of an unknown. Of course one or both of Emery or David could step in and be a monster immediately but that's still up in the air. And yes, the lack of a stud RB last year was quite clearly a problem.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:33 am to The Pirate King
I am Seeing 1 that would start at a good D1 school
Davis (as a freshmen) and the rest are backups or like Northwestern Starters.
Brosette started at a D1 school... doesn’t mean he was amazing just Mena he was good enough to get carried when no one else was there to take them in the backfield.
Davis (as a freshmen) and the rest are backups or like Northwestern Starters.
Brosette started at a D1 school... doesn’t mean he was amazing just Mena he was good enough to get carried when no one else was there to take them in the backfield.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:43 am to mhc4tigers
So Etling gets no credit for coming back down 20 against against Auburn?
Or actually scoring against Bama?
Or actually scoring against Bama?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:48 am to The Pirate King
I’m holding it against O that he signed just two RBs in two classes, only one of whom got any significant playing time.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:15 am to The Pirate King
Where did Travis Etienne play his high school ball??
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:38 am to tandrews37
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Why didn’t Etienne just stay home? That’s complicated. LSU sits 90 minutes from Jennings, but during his senior season, the program underwent a head coaching change. Donnetta says former coach Les Miles and the previous staff made her field unappreciated for much of the recruiting process. The Tigers prioritized not Etienne but Cam Akers, a five star Mississippi tailback. LSU did not offer Etienne a scholarship until Akers committed to Florida State about six weeks before signing day, a transparent move that didn’t sit well with anyone. “They downplayed us,” Donnetta says.
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The real challenger in Etienne’s recruiting process was Oregon. Etienne silently committed to the Oregon coaching staff, something he even hid from his mother, she says.
LINK
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:43 am to The First Cut
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LSU did not offer Etienne a scholarship until Akers committed to Florida State about six weeks before signing day
When was signing day? When was Miles fired?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:51 am to Damone
Let's focus on the two months before signing day that Orgeron had the job, not the two-year recruiting cycle before that. Recruiting doesn't start in the November before signing day, it starts years before that. Etienne's mom is quoted calling out Miles as making them feel unappreciated.Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:56 am to The First Cut
How about the 2018 class?
How about the OL and DL?
How about the OL and DL?
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:02 pm to The First Cut
I still say you can't really blame Miles for a recruiting cycle he was not allowed to finish. He has too strong of a history to say that he couldn't have changed things if he was still there.
Many in LSU media seem to think Akers was a real shot to come here if he was not fired. And that is not only plausible but probable. Miles's history with recruiting the RB position is as good as anyone else in the time frame he was at LSU.
If you want to say that Etienne should've been prioritized over Akers, then that's a different story, and also using the benefit of hindsight.
The nature of recruiting is such that frequently it has to come down to one guy or another. We were not getting both Akers and Etienne, just as we were not going to get LF if we seriously pursued Dalvin Cook. You make decisions based on your evaluations and let the chips fall where they may.
Many in LSU media seem to think Akers was a real shot to come here if he was not fired. And that is not only plausible but probable. Miles's history with recruiting the RB position is as good as anyone else in the time frame he was at LSU.
If you want to say that Etienne should've been prioritized over Akers, then that's a different story, and also using the benefit of hindsight.
The nature of recruiting is such that frequently it has to come down to one guy or another. We were not getting both Akers and Etienne, just as we were not going to get LF if we seriously pursued Dalvin Cook. You make decisions based on your evaluations and let the chips fall where they may.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/14/19 at 2:17 pm to bencoleman
quote:
Burrow is a much better QB than Etling.
I think Burrow has more talent than Etling, but the stats show Etling was better.
Burrow:
57.8 pct. (379 attempts/219 completions)
2894 passing yards
7.6 yards/attempt
16 touchdowns
5 interceptions
133.21 rating
Etling: 60 pct. (275 attempts/165 completions)
2463 passing yards
9.0 yards/attempt
16 touchdowns
2 interceptions
152.98 rating
Maybe 2019 will be Joe's year.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 3:15 pm to The First Cut
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Recruiting doesn't start in the November before signing day, it starts years before that.
so then its fair to say that the attrition of the OL position from November 2016-August 2018 is O's responsibility and not Miles' fault?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 3:16 pm to earl keese
the thing is that neither year is bad.
its just that if you are going to call Etling bad, then by the numbers, you have to say Burrow is also bad.
but since neither are bad, its a moot argument
its just that if you are going to call Etling bad, then by the numbers, you have to say Burrow is also bad.
but since neither are bad, its a moot argument
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