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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:28 pm to

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:39 pm to
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It's a troll tactic and for all of the guy's faults as a poster, he's got that one mastered.



Well the difference is that this guy TRUELY believes what he puts in EVERY post...………


WE think hes a troll... He does not know what that is...………..
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:46 pm to
Also known as the strawman logical fallacy.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:03 pm to
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People aren't tamping down expectations and enthusiasm, people are trying to appropriately hold O accountable for the same records and results taht got the last coach fired instead of pumping it up beyond what it should be.
Miles got fired because he refused to install a cutting edge passing game. If he had done it and he would still be HC & and would likely have LSU at Bama's level by now. He wasted years.

Every school kid with knows this. It is absurd the the O-Bashers continue to deny it.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:10 pm to
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Miles got fired because he refused to install a cutting edge passing game.


I’ve enjoyed watching O&E’s cutting edge passing game that resulted in 5/12 games having ZERO PASSING TOUCHDOWNS.

That is certainly revolutionary. A passing game that lacks passing TDs.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Miles got fired because he refused to install a cutting edge passing game. If he had done it and he would still be HC & and would likely have LSU at Bama's level by now. He wasted years.

Every school kid with knows this. It is absurd the the O-Bashers continue to deny it.


No one would care about a cutting edge offense if Miles were winning 11-12 games/beating Bama/Winning the West. He was much "easier" to criticize because he wasn't winning as much as he previously had.

Unless you're saying that O is only "better" because he has pretty much the same results with a "more modern offense" (one that struggles to even score on Bama). I guess, ...Yay?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Unless you're saying that O is only "better" because he has pretty much the same results with a "more modern offense" (one that struggles to even score on Bama). I guess, ...Yay?
No. I'm saying he's employed because he is taking active steps to install a cutting edge passing offense.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:45 pm to
By that logic all he has to do is change the offense every season and he will always have a job at LSU.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:25 pm to
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By that logic all he has to do is change the offense every season and he will always have a job at LSU.
By your logic, the Boosters are too stupid to figure out that their demands are being ignored... how'd that logic work out for Les?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:37 pm to
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You're basically a hemorrhoid. As much as we all like Joe Burrow, your presence here has been abysmal since his arrival. When you're not attempting to teach us plebes about football, you're busy explaining our own history to us, what with your long and storied connection to our program.

In fact, you're so terrible...you're basically the only poster who can actually piss off people enough to where they're forced to say something semi-critical of Burrow because of your constant fellating of him.

Idiot is being kind.
Nothing new here. You Circle Jerks attack and attempt to viciously discredit any poster who challenges your pathetic narratives.

Burrow is a FAR better QB than any of the Circle Jerks are capable of comprehending AND Orgeron is a FAR better HC than any of the Circle Jerks are capable of comprehending.

Can't wait to watch you and your kind slither back into the woodwork as LSU first clobbers Texas, then moves on to a highly successful season. (And O's contract is extended and improved for him yet again) Oh yeah, And as Burrow is one of the first 5 QBs picked in the '20 NFL draft.

This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:42 pm to
I haven't made any statements regarding the boosters and Les that I can recall.

Let me try another angle and ask a different way. What if Miles had repeated the 2011 season in 2016? He would have had an undefeated regular season that would rival any regular season in the history of college football given the strength of schedule and margin of victory along with an SEC Championship. Would he still have been fired because he didn't have gaudy passing statistics? You know, those statistics that you say are empty and that the only thing that matters is the final poll.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:43 pm to
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Can't wait to watch you and your kind slither back into the woodwork as LSU first clobbers Texas

Would that prove once and for all that Orgeron is a better head coach than Herman?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:51 pm to
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Would that prove once and for all that Orgeron is a better head coach than Herman?

There is no doubt in my mind that Orgeron is a better HC than Herman. But an LSU beatdown of Texas may prompt a few of the brighter Bashers to wake up and smell the roses.

And your first question is one hypothetical stacked on top of another. Basically unanswerable. But I will repeat that if Miles had done what he had agreed to do, he'd still be the HC at LSU.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:55 pm to
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There is no doubt in my mind that Orgeron is a better HC than Herman.

So, a head to head win would remove all doubt?
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And your first question is one hypothetical stacked on top of another. Basically unanswerable.

It's no more hypothetical than saying that had Miles changed the offense that he would still be the head coach. You just don't want to answer because an honest answer would cause a contradiction on multiple levels in your previous statements on the subjects of passing offense and final polls.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32137 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:05 pm to
Just give him time, Lunatik. He’ll contradict himself here shortly.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:11 pm to
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You just don't want to answer because an honest answer would cause a contradiction on multiple levels in your previous statements on the subjects of passing offense and final polls.
Nonsense. The game changed, and Miles didn't. Miles could win 9 or 10 a year with his I-Formation ground-and-pound, but he wasn't going to compete in the playoffs with that old shite. NOR get into the playoffs with that old shite.

This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:16 pm to
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but he wasn't going to compete in the playoffs with that old shite.

Wait a minute here. I thought you said it was all about the offensive numbers and changing the offense to make the boosters happy. What does competing in the playoffs have to do with anything now? Btw, he went undefeated in the regular season and won a conference title with an average passing offense at best. In 2013, he had an amazing passing game but lost 2 games. Are you saying that the boosters were happier with 2013 or 2011?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:20 pm to
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Let me try another angle and ask a different way. What if Miles had repeated the 2011 season in 2016? He would have had an undefeated regular season that would rival any regular season in the history of college football given the strength of schedule and margin of victory along with an SEC Championship. Would he still have been fired because he didn't have gaudy passing statistics? You know, those statistics that you say are empty and that the only thing that matters is the final poll.


ding ding ding
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:27 pm to
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Let me try another angle and ask a different way. What if Miles had repeated the 2011 season in 2016?


Far out, man. What if Miles had gone undefeated from 2011 right thru 2016. And he ran nothing but the single wing? And scored all LSUs points with drop-kicks? Wow! What then, Dude!
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:29 pm to
From what you've been saying, the boosters would have fired him.
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