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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:56 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:56 am to
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What difference does it make? He's on an NFL roster. I'd say that the coaches there see him as being a valuable player. He has a super bowl ring too


exactly.

he was drafted by the most successful nfl coach in history but yeah Ben doesnt think he should be labeled a nfl qb
Posted by EasterEgg
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:15 am to
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Any poll that has Jimbo Fisher as the 3rd best coach in America is a crap poll. 

Gus stood out first to me, but you are definitely correct.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:20 am to
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he was drafted by the most successful nfl coach in history but yeah Ben doesnt think he should be labeled a nfl qb



I don't have a problem with him being labeled as an NFL QB. I have a problem with you throwing him up in people's face as the example that you're doing. He's never played in a game and maybe doesn't even get to dress out yet you throw him out there. It's unfair to Etling.

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:33 am to
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, bash the players to make o look good



What player was I bashing? Do you have a link?
Posted by rbdallas
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:37 am to
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You'd figure if Jimbo was so bad we could've beat him in his first year with his team.


we did .. the 13th man got us.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:49 am to
What makes it even funnier is 2018 Burrow and 2017 Etling aren’t all that different.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 6:53 am to
Burrow is a much better QB than Etling.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:07 am to
Burrow made plays both running and passing. With Etling we definitely do not win the Auburn game. Probably lose at least one other game.
Posted by LSUStar
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:19 am to
And so what?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:28 am to
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He also inherited more kickers than linebackers

rant created bullshite myth


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Ed Orgeron and Dave Aranda were on a recruiting trip late last fall when LSU’s defensive coordinator turned to the head coach.

“Do you know,” he started, “that we have more kickers on scholarship than inside linebackers?”

“Shhh!” Orgeron replied. “Don’t tell anyone that, Dave!”

Eight months and a signing class later, LSU’s inside linebacker situation is much improved. First off, the program now has more inside linebackers on scholarship (five) than kickers and punters (three).



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That wasn’t the case in March and April. It was an exhausting spring for White and Alexander, the only two scholarship inside linebackers Aranda had. The situation was so dire that a pair of walk-ons, Layton Garnett and Jonathan Rucker, received some first-string snaps, and coaches moved Michael Divinity from outside to an inside linebacker spot to supply depth.

“Thank goodness for the walk-ons we had,” Aranda said in May. “They were our 2s and subbed in a lot of times with our 1s.”


It’s not a Rant-created myth.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 7:49 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:28 am to
They are positioning the lemmings for preseason poll interest to drive ratings. Fairly transparent.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:39 am to
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I don't have a problem with him being labeled as an NFL QB. I have a problem with you throwing him up in people's face as the example that you're doing.

Mornin Ben Can you explain what you mean here?
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:49 am to
Because Aranda specifically said INSIDE linebackers, not “linebackers”.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:52 am to
So two ILBs on the roster is OK?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:55 am to
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So two ILBs on the roster is OK



It is until the negas can use them to bash Ed.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:57 am to
Orgeron flipped Phillips in January and landed Taylor in February. If not for that, LSU would’ve had three scholarship ILB in 2017.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14701 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:19 am to
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What difference does it make? He's on an NFL roster. I'd say that the coaches there see him as being a valuable player. He has a super bowl ring too exactly. he was drafted by the most successful nfl coach in history but yeah Ben doesnt think he should be labeled a nfl qb


The difference is that he was cut by the Patriots and signed to their practice squad, where he spent the entire season. One year later the Patriots drafted Stidham in the 4th round, effectively making Etling QB4.

Miles left a decent roster for 2017. He left almost nothing offensively for beyond that season.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78188 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:45 am to
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You’re right, especially since there is no such thing as a 54 man roster.


Wow you got me.

So he isn’t on the active roster.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:48 am to
You’re now moving the goalposts. “There were more kickers than linebackers” is a lie. “There were more kickers than inside linebackers” is not. Was ILB a problem for the LSU defense? Was the inside linebacker depth the reason LSU didn’t compete for the SEC in 2017 and 2018?
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 8:50 am
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:49 am to
He's 1 of 3 on this list that's won it all, and he won it all without paying coordinators. I'm not sure if he's 3 or not, but he certainly deserves to be considered 3. I'd also agree that we'll see what he has not that he does have a budget to pay OC and DC, and not that he's playing against the big boys.

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