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re: Some LSU profs don't support athletics
Posted on 10/30/09 at 1:55 pm to tigerfoot
Posted on 10/30/09 at 1:55 pm to tigerfoot
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I know, economic stimulus is what it is all about.
BTR really does boom when the Tigers do, that is the basic business barometer. Of course BTR metro also has the second fastest declining population in the country. And has a decline in BTR city population since the glory of LSU football resurfaced, from 2000 to 2007 showing an actual decline even with the Katrina influx. Also, the number one employer within BTR is government. So if the LSU football team is such an economic driving force...how do you explain the decline in the BTR area.
Yet there has been vast expansion at other University cities that have mediocre or horrible football programs. What is your explanation?
My explanation is that perhaps you are a giant a-hole. The only common denominator seems to be that you are still in Louisiana>?> Could it be that everyone wants to get away from you?
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Posted on 10/30/09 at 1:57 pm to csand12
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Well maybe you should inform him that the football program provides the MOST revenue for the university
Student fees alone account for more than twice the revenues from the entire athletic program.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:00 pm to PunchDrunk
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But I agree with you, that type of model will not work as well here, simply because most people either do not agree, do not care, or do not understand.
I think there are two reasons that most members of the public won't invest in the academic portion of the university
1) because there is not a tangible benefit to it. At least with football or any athletic event, you feel like you get something back for your money, even if all it is is entertainment. What tangible benefit to you get from investing in the university? Nothing for you, but better education for someone else. Not saying its right, or that I agree with this thought process, just stating my opinion.
2) Many members of the public don't have money to give and feel as though they need the help from the government first. "If I'm doing poorly shouldn't the state help me out first" -- kinda thought.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:02 pm to CorieJanes Dad
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Could it be that everyone wants to get away from you?
But I live in Alexandria.
So try again.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:04 pm to tigerfoot
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Well maybe you should inform him that the football program provides the MOST revenue for the university
LOL. This is ludicrous. The state budget for the LSU system is $646 million, and that doesnt include tuition, grants, etc, which probably make up another 40-50%. Now that is for the whole system, not just the LSU main campus. Yes, the football program might have some money left over, but that is not actually doing much to "pay the faculty".
Also, you should read this article. LSU system is being cut 15% in 2009, and we are expecting another cut next summer.
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Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:06 pm to Guster
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The only problem I've ever encountered due to football is that LSU academic facilities shut down 7-8 times a year. It's not too concerning if you are an undergrad (who really wants to go the library). But instead, it bothers some graduate students I know who can't come to campus to do research they need to do in order to graduate.
What the hell have those undergrads been doing the other 357-358 days a freaking year?
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:09 pm to Chicot
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I think there are two reasons that most members of the public won't invest in the academic portion of the university 1) because there is not a tangible benefit to it. At least with football or any athletic event, you feel like you get something back for your money, even if all it is is entertainment. What tangible benefit to you get from investing in the university? Nothing for you, but better education for someone else. Not saying its right, or that I agree with this thought process, just stating my opinion. 2) Many members of the public don't have money to give and feel as though they need the help from the government first. "If I'm doing poorly shouldn't the state help me out first" -- kinda thought.
Agreed.
Its a big issue. Like someone said, everyone wants money but money is limited, especially right now. I want the football team to be strong, and the academics to be strong. Its just frustrating when people give time and money to the football team, but then they dont seem to even care about the University itself. It would be nice if instead of a big donation to TAF, occasionally some of that money when to the University as well.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:11 pm to tigerfoot
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But I live in Alexandria.
Which is in LA.
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Yet there has been vast expansion at other University cities that have mediocre or horrible football programs.
The only other Univ. Cities are out of state so they are leaving LA (the state) to get away from you, which was the whole point.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:12 pm to PunchDrunk
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Actually, it looks like the state funded portion of the budget is actually more like $250 million. At the other revenue sources bring it up to nearly the level of $654 million that you mentioned before. But even that $250 million in state funds was before cuts, and the $654 is total after the cuts. Whereas the total budgeted prior to cuts was $816 million.
Actually, it looks like the state funded portion of the budget is actually more like $250 million. At the other revenue sources bring it up to nearly the level of $654 million that you mentioned before. But even that $250 million in state funds was before cuts, and the $654 is total after the cuts. Whereas the total budgeted prior to cuts was $816 million.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:14 pm to PunchDrunk
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It would be nice if instead of a big donation to TAF, occasionally some of that money when to the University as well.
Again, I believe many more people would give to the university if there was an immediate, tangible benefit to it.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:16 pm to SpidermanTUba
Date Produced: 1997
Just a bit out of date don't you think?
Just a little bit before Obama started manipulating the reported news.
Just a bit out of date don't you think?
Just a little bit before Obama started manipulating the reported news.
This post was edited on 10/30/09 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:17 pm to SpidermanTUba
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I'm not allowed to discuss politics on this site
Although nothing is stopping the mindless political posts in this thread.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:17 pm to Chicot
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Date Produced: 1997
Just a bit out of date don't you think?
I'm not allowed to answer that.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:17 pm to biglego
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Although nothing is stopping the mindless political posts in this thread.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:18 pm to Chicot
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Just a little bit before Obama started manipulating the reported news.
It's even before Bush started manipulating the news...and right around when the media jumped enthusiastically into the Monica Lewinsky fiasco.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:18 pm to CorieJanes Dad
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The only other Univ. Cities are out of state so they are leaving LA (the state) to get away from you
Seriously, are you 11.
This reminds me of a huge game of "I know you are but what am I", did you finish a round of that earlier.
Seeing as I did not mention a single thing about LOUISIANA population, I was assuming you meant the BATON ROUGE population that I mentioned.
I had no idea you had zero reading comprehension. I will not fall for that lil trick again.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
I wasnt referring to your posts.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:19 pm to biglego
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political posts in this thread.
Sorry but you really can't separate university funding and politics.....
I am not saying how is pro-education funding, and not, but simple fact is as long as the legislature (a political body) has oversight of univesity funding and tuition then this subject will remain a political one.
Posted on 10/30/09 at 2:20 pm to SpidermanTUba
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with that comment you're helping to prove his point, not disprove it.
how so? Its a decent sized school with out a football team of any sort, let alone D1, I just used it as a local example. There are literally 100's of universities in this country with out FB teams.
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UNO is part of LSU
when it first opened it was LSUNO, I thought they had split off. In any event, I would need to see some link that shows UNO gets funds from the LSU athletic budget.
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