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Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:27 pm to Broski
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I just don't think making the NIT should be considered progress when we did the exact same thing 2 years ago with a team that had basically quit on Trent.
Well first off, that last NIT team was 18-15, 7-9. This team is 19-13, 9-9. So that, just statistically speaking, is progress as well.
You can look at the following year and generally get an idea if you're going to suck or not. Trent saw that his peak at that point was NIT, and that we were not gonna make the postseason the next year. So he left.
Johnny Jones nearly got us there anyway last year. Has us there this year. And will in all likelihood have us in the NCAAs next year.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:28 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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And will in all likelihood have us in the NCAAs next year
Based on... ?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:31 pm to Broski
Returning and incoming players. Just like every team in every sport predicts their seasons.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Returning and incoming players. Just like every team in every sport predicts their seasons.
Same thing was said last year, and here we are.
To say "in all likelihood" is a stretch, Johnny has yet to prove that he can take LSU to the next level.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:34 pm to Broski
Dude he is about finish up his SECOND season. Are you really that dense?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:35 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Dude he is about finish up his SECOND season.
Why does this mean that he will "in all likelihood" bring LSU to the tournament next year?
How is it wrong for me to say that he has yet to prove anything?
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:41 pm to Broski
He's proven he can recruit and that's the biggest thing in college basketball.
Your emphasis on the fact that he's "yet to prove he can bring us to the next level" in only his second year as our head coach is simply ignorant. Come back in year 4.
Your emphasis on the fact that he's "yet to prove he can bring us to the next level" in only his second year as our head coach is simply ignorant. Come back in year 4.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:44 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He's proven he can recruit and that's the biggest thing in college basketball.
Unless you are pulling in Anthony Davis-like players that simply step on the court and dominate, you still need x-and-o's.
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Your emphasis on the fact that he's "yet to prove he can bring us to the next level" in only his second year as our head coach is simply ignorant.
And assuming that we'll make the tournament next year is not ignorant?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:49 pm to Broski
Johnny Jones proved at North Texas that he can coach and not just recruit.
My opinion on next season is actually based on real factors like the players we will have. You're trying to make some type of point like "after all this time he still hasn't shown us anything."
Give the man a little more time. Be positive about the program. Recruits see that. Fans deciding whether to go to the games see that. It matters.
My opinion on next season is actually based on real factors like the players we will have. You're trying to make some type of point like "after all this time he still hasn't shown us anything."
Give the man a little more time. Be positive about the program. Recruits see that. Fans deciding whether to go to the games see that. It matters.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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My opinion on next season is actually based on real factors like the players we will have. You're trying to make some type of point like "after all this time he still hasn't shown us anything."
Clearly my argument went well over your head if this is what you got from it.
Ignorance is bliss I guess.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:54 pm to Broski
I got it lol. You took offense to calling the NIT progress, among other things.
I'm gonna enjoy the ride and watch the game tomorrow. Go be miserable and read about the game on Tigerdroppings.
I'm gonna enjoy the ride and watch the game tomorrow. Go be miserable and read about the game on Tigerdroppings.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:57 pm to Broski
They underachieved this year, no ifs ands or buts.
Gotta upgrade (or upsize) the guards.
He can definitely recruit, the next 2 years will be interesting.
I like CJJ, and think he will have success, but in a weak SEC this year, they definitely should've been better than 9-9.
Gotta upgrade (or upsize) the guards.
He can definitely recruit, the next 2 years will be interesting.
I like CJJ, and think he will have success, but in a weak SEC this year, they definitely should've been better than 9-9.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I got it lol. You took offense to calling the NIT progress, among other things.
Again, no, but whatever helps you sleep at night, bro.
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I'm gonna enjoy the ride and watch the game tomorrow. Go be miserable and read about the game on Tigerdroppings.
Keep up the Ad hominem.
Who said I wasn't going to watch the game? You are jumping to some pretty ridiculous conclusions in this thread.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:01 am to Mickey Goldmill
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He's proven he can recruit and that's the biggest thing in college basketball.
No its not. If that was the case then Kentucky would win the national championship every year.
Does it bring you a long way? Yes, it brings you to the NIT. Coaching gets you the rest of the way.
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Johnny Jones proved at North Texas that he can coach and not just recruit.
Jones won ZERO regular season championships in 11 years in the SUN BELT CONFERENCE. He won two tourney titles. That is hardly proving you can coach.
The apathetic attitude Jones has towards defense has nothing to do with talent. Allowing his team to get destroyed with huge runs while holding on to all his timeouts is mind-boggling.
I like Jones a lot, the guy got an opportunity he wouldn't have received because of a weak athletic director. I have no doubt in my mind that Johnny Jones loves LSU. I have serious doubt he has the coaching ability to get LSU to become a perennial NCAA team.
I hope to see Jones coach LSU with a great team next year. But I have tempered my expectations for the future.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:03 am to burdman
I agree. Never did I say I was happy or satisfied with this season. I am, however, able to find positives in it. Making the NIT is a positive versus not making it.
We should have much more out of our guards next year if Gray and Hornsby are as good as advertised. Not to mention Malik Morgan coming back from injury and Quarterman having a year under his belt.
I'm assuming we have Hickey and Martin back, possibly Mickey as well. Add in Elbert Robinson. That's where my positivity about next season comes from. I don't see that as ignorance or blind faith. It's a reasonable take on the direction of our program.
We should have much more out of our guards next year if Gray and Hornsby are as good as advertised. Not to mention Malik Morgan coming back from injury and Quarterman having a year under his belt.
I'm assuming we have Hickey and Martin back, possibly Mickey as well. Add in Elbert Robinson. That's where my positivity about next season comes from. I don't see that as ignorance or blind faith. It's a reasonable take on the direction of our program.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:04 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Making the NIT is a positive versus not making it.
Going 1-17 in SEC play is better than going 0-18, so 2008-09 had some positives.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:07 am to Lloyd Christmas
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No its not. If that was the case then Kentucky would win the national championship every year. Does it bring you a long way? Yes, it brings you to the NIT. Coaching gets you the rest of the way.
So recruiting isn't the most important part of college basketball? Coaching is more important than recruiting? That's why Trent succeeded so much here I guess.
Please go look at the history behind the UNT program prior to him going there and where he left it. I'm not even gonna dumb down enough to argue with you on that point. I read today that UNT will likely put Johnny Jones into their Athletics Hall of Fame one day.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:09 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Coaching is more important than recruiting? That's why Trent succeeded so much here I guess.
So now you're saying that Trent was a good x's-and-o's coach? Your argument is on its last lifeline.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:10 am to Broski
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So now you're saying that Trent was a good x's-and-o's coach? Your argument is on its last lifeline.
That's actually a pretty common opinion lol
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