re: So You Don't Know Why Miles Might Want to Start Jefferson?

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Yea, we looked good from about midway through the 3rd quarter on. What about before that? We looked like shite for the first half against a team that had no business on the field with us. We have totally destroyed some pretty good teams this year. Aside from Bama, first half of the Oregon game, and the 3rd quarter of WVU, games have not even been close. Against much better competition mind you. Now of course I think most of us were expecting a sluggish start after coming off the high of beating Bama, but not to the extent we saw.

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Most of that was from letting WKU have long drives against us and not forcing any turnovers, coupled with a fumble on special teams.

We moved the ball ok on the first drive but a personal foul made it 2nd and 32 and we only made 26 of those yards back, we scored on the second drive, Sheppard dropped an easy pass on the third drive, we scored on the 4th drive, and we couldn't quite get into FG range when the half ended on the 5th drive. We scored on the 6th, safety on the 7th (that one sucked) and scored again on the 8th and 9th.

We scored TD's on 5 of JJ's 9 possessions, and of the four we didn't score on one was because of penalty, one because of a dropped pass, one because of the half ending, and one because of a safety due to shitty field position because our special teams uncharacteristically gave up a huge kickoff return and then our D uncharacteristically couldn't get a stop until 4th and goal at the one.

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JJ started once and we scored 42 pts.

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who was the opponent ?

until we play the same team with the same players and JL starts..these stats do not have meaning.

...may have served your purpose

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You would be suprised how many teams are actually interested in drafting him somewhere. A

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lulz.

you people are insane

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Lee picked up a bad snap and threw it without looking at the defense.

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I'm going to take flak for making this the first post I respond to, but you should rewatch the play.

He didn't "pick up" the snap. It was low, but he fielded it cleanly.

2nd, I don't see how your 2nd statement makes any sort of a positive case for Lee at all. Why do you want your QB throwing the ball without looking at the defense?

Lee made two mistakes on the play... 1) he panicked after the snap was thigh high rather than chest high. 2) This panic made him just throw the ball without thinking.

He should have thrown it away.

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The anger is exhibited over JJ starting and sometimes even playing. That brings about the sh@#$ing on JJ to justify the argument that JL should start. Then the JJ supporters or just fair play people feel obligated to support the notion that starting JJ is not the worst thing in the world, as some would argue. They bring out his positive qualities to justify why Miles might have chosen to start him over JL.

Some of us support which ever QB Miles chooses to start and do not feel the need to castigate his choice. Some of us do not support the denigrating any of the young men who chose to wear the Purple and Gold. We choose to support them regardless.

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You nailed it.

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You have spent an absurd amount of time defending Jefferson here.



He has a whole fan club.

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It seems that you do this in every thread. You come in and try to put up a front of being level and fair and supportive, but you undoubtedly go out of your way to antagonize anyone who defends Jefferson.

I'm just surprised that you try to put up this "big picture" view of everything but then you can't acknowledge that about 75% (or more) of the JJ support on this board is reactionary to a lot of baseless attacks and criticisms.

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I think every stat under crowton should be thrown out the window. Both QB's look like they have improved this year and I don't think it is because they are seniors.

not disagreeing but it does happen. see Jason Campbell

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WUT?

Campbell is like THE case study for a guy improving with the right coaching.

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10 INTs and 9 fumbles

So 19 turnovers can be attributed to JJ in 2010

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I asked you yesterday and you disappeared.


Where you getting these fumble numbers from?

My impression is that you saw someone post it here once and took it as gospel.

Because those numbers aren't readily available on ESPN, LSUSports or CFB Reference...

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JL is the reason why we beat Florida last year, and even the biggest JJ homers will not back you if you don't think he was.

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QBs don't win games, teams do.

JJ isn't THE REASON we beat Alabama, but he played a part.

Lee isn't THE REASON we beat UF last year. In fact, two of his biggest passing plays, including one of his TDs were 10 yard slants that TT made tremendous run after catch on.

Now, Lee gets tremendous credit for reading that blitz and beating and putting the ball in position for TT to do what he did.

But to act like Lee is the only reason we won that game is disingenuous.