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re: So You Don't Know Why Miles Might Want to Start Jefferson?

Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:50 pm to
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10 INTs and 9 fumbles

So 19 turnovers can be attributed to JJ in 2010

How many ints did lee have in 2008? 16?
yes, but one was a RS Freshman (2 YRS) and one was a junior (3 YRS)
You miss the point.

Both have played MUCH better in 2011 than they played in 2008, 2009, or 2010.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:50 pm to
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Jefferson is a damn good QB. He's a damn good rusher, and he's a damn good passer.


In your opinion
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:51 pm to
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I see this posted a lot. Please list the several times for me and the exact plays u are talking about.

JL didnt bail anyone out. JJ bailed JL out of the bama game. JL had a few series hear and there, he had two tds on the year and that was against UF. JJ had already led scoring drives against every opponent before lee saw the field.



Really? Revisionist history
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:52 pm to
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I also posted where Lee came in twice for JJ started drives in the tenn game last year. But no one complains about that.

well JJ was 3/10 against UT, I think it's pretty obvious why JL had to come in. JL maybe didn't bail JJ out in the Florida game, but he led every TD drive we had that game and JJ didn't lead any is all I'm saying. If people wanna say JJ bailed Lee out against Bama, what else would you call what JL did in those two games? JJ was playing like dogshit and JL came in and got the job done.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:52 pm to
I think JL won that game. Or I should say w/o him I think the chances we woul dhave won dramastically decrease. JL is money on the fade routes.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:52 pm to
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10 INTs and 9 fumbles

I couldn't find fumble stats. I was wondering about that.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:53 pm to
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Jefferson is a damn good QB. He's a damn good rusher, and he's a damn good passer.
In your opinion


Jefferson's 4.1 ypc includes sacks.




Posted by deSandman
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 3:58 pm to
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10 INTs and 9 fumbles



I couldn't find fumble stats. I was wondering about that.


Those numbers aren't right anyway.
I mean lumping fumbles that LSU recovered, that the other team recovered, and Interceptions together is rantarded.

Jefferson had 8 fumbles last season, and he or another LSU player recovered 6 of them. Two resulted in a change of possession, one against McNeese and one against Ark.

https://www.lsusports.net/src/data/lsu/assets/docs/fb/10stats/indgbg.htm?DB_OEM_ID=5200#IGBG.FMB

This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 4:00 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:00 pm to
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Jefferson had 8 fumbles last season


So I was one off?

Wow, yeah. What a difference
Posted by deSandman
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:02 pm to
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So I was one off?

Wow, yeah. What a difference


So you're honestly arguing that an Interception and a fumbled snap that the QB falls on are the same thing?

"10 INTs and 9 fumbles," without context, will be taken 100% of the time to mean 19 turnovers.

It was 12 turnovers.

Thats a major difference.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 4:05 pm
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:03 pm to
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So I was one off? Wow, yeah. What a difference
you were 7 off. 8 fumbles by jj and LSU recovered 6 so he had 12 turnovers last year not 19.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36291 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:04 pm to
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So I was one off?

Wow, yeah. What a differenc


I think what hes saying is the number is 2.....Acting like a recovered fumble is a turnover is like saying an incomplete pass that is dropped by the DB is an interception. ALso that one lost fumble against arky last year Im guessing is the snap that was snapped while JJ was walking up to the line making an audible.

JJ had a very bad start to the season last year. Lee bailed him out against UT. There isnt any arguing that. Both had decent games against UF. Both were bad against Auburn Lee got hurt. Things started clicking for JJ from bama on. Lee has been great this year. JJ looks good too. It is ok to admit that both have looked solid.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:04 pm to
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So you're honestly arguing that an Interception and a fumbled snap that the QB falls on are the same thing?
Yes. He is.

He's one of the most full of shite posters.

He has zero integrity. He doesn't give a frick about the facts.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:05 pm to
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So I was one off?


So we're now losing our shite over fumbles that we recover?

Just checking...has anyone made a big deal out of the RR fumble on the first pass from JJ against WKU this past week where, you guessed it, JJ had to make the recovery? Has anyone even suggested it was a fricking heads-up play for the QB to even be following that play and to have made the recovery...?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:07 pm to
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He has zero integrity. He doesn't give a frick about the facts.


Nah...I like doc a great deal. I like him enough to pretend he's simply being a hack on this topic for the fun of it.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:09 pm to
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So I was one off?

Wow, yeah. What a difference
Well, if you want to talk about fumbles that weren't turnovers, why didn't you mention Lee's five fumbles in 2008?

Let me tell other posters why.

It's because you are completely full of shite.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:09 pm to
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Nah...I like doc a great deal. I like him enough to pretend he's simply being a hack on this topic for the fun of it.
I'm guessing he just read the first part of desandman's post and didn't read the part about LSU recovering 6 of the fumbles. All he saw was him being corrected from 9 to 8 and replied without reading the rest of the post.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:12 pm to
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Nah...I like doc a great deal. I like him enough to pretend he's simply being a hack on this topic for the fun of it.
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I'm guessing he just read the first part of desandman's post and didn't read the part about LSU recovering 6 of the fumbles. All he saw was him being corrected from 9 to 8 and replied without reading the rest of the post.
Look at his first three posts in this thread.

All three of them are on the first page.

All three of them are complete crap!
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36291 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:18 pm to
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Look at his first three posts in this thread.

All three of them are on the first page.

All three of them are complete crap!



TheDoc has a want to remain in the dark about the skills that Jefferson brings to the table. Why that is people can only guess. Facts can be brought to the table and he continues to hate. Backing Lee on Lees merits is fine but to continually to insist that JJ is a bad qb despite evidence to the contrary is disappointing.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 4:26 pm to
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10 INTs and 9 fumbles

So 19 turnovers can be attributed to JJ in 2010


I have no idea how many times JJ fumbled last year, but you cannot possibly be stupid enough to believe that we lost 9 of them. Can you?
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