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re: So You Don't Know Why Miles Might Want to Start Jefferson?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:20 am to ScoopAndScore
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:20 am to ScoopAndScore
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Hester was the guy for most of that season. By the end, I fully understood it. Very similar with JJ vs JL.
do not compare Hester to this situation. Hester has been in the NFL since leaving, KW has been in and out of practice squads. Everyone actyed like KW wasn't given a fair shake and was better, but obviously not. JJ won't sniff the NFL. JL prob won't either, but that comparison just doesn't work here.
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:21 am to TulaneTigerFan
quote:Thank you.
He actually does make some good arguments.
quote:I'm a giver. What can I say? It's what I do. I give.
I just don't understand the level of emotional investment it must require to spend this much time crafting these types of threads incessantly.
I'm also a hugger, but that's for a different thread. Probably on the OT.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:22 am to Baloo
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Throwing out the Bama game is a terrible idea because it's perhaps the BEST game to use -- as both QB's got lots of playing time against the same defense.
11 plays for JL and 48 for JJ is not a lot of playing time for both
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:24 am to just me
You actually made me rethink my position on Jefferson with this thread and your previous one, BTW. I'm all about stats removing perception biases, and I think you got me here.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:25 am to lsufball19
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Do you know that UGA has the number 12 scoring defense in the country?
helps out when you play state, ole miss, and auburn in the west and run through that "gauntlet" of the east and New Mexico and Coastal Carolina OOC
They also played boise, Tennesse with bray, and South Carolina with Lattimore. Bama has played just as many crappy offenses as UGA and probably more. Did you see the other statistics? In the SEC 3rd total 3rd rushing 3rd scoring 1st in sacks and more ints than bama. UGA will be tough on defense no doubt about it.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:25 am to TulaneTigerFan
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I'm all about stats removing perception biases, and I think you got me here.
Rational thinker
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:25 am to just me
Look what you've done with your dirty whore stats and your bolding and bolded italics and formatted post. If the rant were some kind of impaction, this post is a lard-covered pipe cleaner with a hook on it which you used to give the old twist-twist-yank. Thanks a lot there, Ramanujan.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:27 am to Adam Banks
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They also played boise, Tennesse with bray, and South Carolina with Lattimore
Bray missed most of the second half in the UGA game. South Carolina has no QB, so even with Lattimore, they couldn't do much on offense. They just gave Lattimore the ball 30+ times a game because that's all they had. they also gave up 45 points to South Carolina and lost that game, so I wouldn't want to use that to support your argument.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:i don't have any beliefs other than Les Miles is a good coach... we have two capable QBs, and LSU is going to win the national championship.
Keep believing the fallacies you believe. CLose minds think alike.
If you disagree with my beliefs, then so be it.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:33 am to lsufball19
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Bray missed most of the second half in the UGA game
And brantley (who was tearing bama apart) missed all of the second half
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South Carolina has no QB, so even with Lattimore, they couldn't do much on offense. They just gave Lattimore the ball 30+ times a game because that's all they had. they also gave up 45 points to South Carolina and lost that game, so I wouldn't want to use that to support your argument.
And yet they are still 3rd in rushing and 3rd in scoring.
All Im saying is UGA has a very good defense. They run the 3-4 and they have athletes just like us and bama. I think we should beat them with either qb but to write off the schedule saying that we arent going to face any more tough defenses is wrong.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:35 am to just me
I'm not a hater but this is really stupid. Our running backs are all studs. JJ is not a good passer. Everyone in the country knows that.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:35 am to Adam Banks
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And yet they are still 3rd in rushing and 3rd in scoring.
All Im saying is UGA has a very good defense. They run the 3-4 and they have athletes just like us and bama. I think we should beat them with either qb but to write off the schedule saying that we arent going to face any more tough defenses is wrong.
go look at georgia's schedule. they've beaten one team with better than a 5-5 record, and that is auburn at 6-4. their defense isn't bad, but it's not as great as you're trying to make them out to be. i don't feel like looking up the stats for all the teams they've played, but they haven't shut down a good offense all year.
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And brantley (who was tearing bama apart) missed all of the second half
what does that have to do with georgia?
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:40 am to just me
I'm not reading all this rehash, I just want to know why you still take all this time and effort to prove a point to an audience that shares the same IQ as that of granite?
The people who get it, got it. The ones that don't, by now, are never going to get it. They really don't know what it takes to win, and understand as much about football as their wives and daughters.
The people who get it, got it. The ones that don't, by now, are never going to get it. They really don't know what it takes to win, and understand as much about football as their wives and daughters.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:42 am to ashy larry
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I agree with a lot of what you said except you make it sound like the Lee fans are shitting on JJ while the JJ fans don't do the same thing Lee. not to mention that the reason there was no anger or outrage in support of JJ is b/c he was suspended and we moved up to #1 in the country with Lee at the helm. Different scenarios.
I agree with some of what you state as well. I agree that JJ supporters bring up Lee's faults in defense of JJ. However, I have never seen where Lee's intelligence has been brought into question. Or the outright lies about Lee's abilities (i.e. can't throw for 200 yards, or can't progress past first receiver, or can't throw long ball, or can't hit receiver in stride, dumb or stupid).
It might be interesting to compare lists of derogatory comments against the two to compare. On second thought maybe not. However, I believe it is not even close as the vitriol against JJ is much, much greater. I think maybe the worst against JL has been his fear of getting hit.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:45 am to lsufball19
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And brantley (who was tearing bama apart) missed all of the second half
what does that have to do with georgia?
You started this by quoting me responding to a guy who was saying something to the degree of we wont play another defense anywhere close to bama. Statistically that is not true. So you bringing up the fact that bray was out which would alter the statistics could be said about bama too. IMO its a tie between us and bama for the best defense in the SEC and georgia is right there below us. They have talent. They run the 3-4 which we have only had to prepare for once this season. They are clicking and the statistics back that up. For example they held UT to -20 yards rushing a team we gave up over 100 to.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 11:47 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:54 am to Adam Banks
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For example they held UT to -20 yards rushing a team we gave up over 100 to.
UT's running game is TERRIBLE. They had one drive where they could run the ball against us and got about 20-25 yards the last drive of the game in garbage time. Pretty sure UT has had more than one game where they had negative rshing yards or close to it
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 11:57 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:57 am to tigerchamps85
Frankly,
what I have seen over the years is this:
when JJ is in, we seem to want to catch him doing something right so we can reward him
when JL is in, we seem, to want to catch him doing something wrong so we can punish him
right or wrong, that's my perception
JJ does not have to prove himself over and over.
JL has to prove himself over and over
what I have seen over the years is this:
when JJ is in, we seem to want to catch him doing something right so we can reward him
when JL is in, we seem, to want to catch him doing something wrong so we can punish him
right or wrong, that's my perception
JJ does not have to prove himself over and over.
JL has to prove himself over and over
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:58 am to rbdallas
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right or wrong, that's my perception
Your perception sucks
Posted on 11/17/11 at 12:01 pm to rbdallas
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when JJ is in, we seem to want to catch him doing something right so we can reward him
when JL is in, we seem, to want to catch him doing something wrong so we can punish him
Shows how perceptions differ. I would have thought it was the exact opposite.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 12:01 pm to BeeFense5
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Your perception sucks
TY, but I am entitled to it.
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