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Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:21 pm to WhySoSerious
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Nah. Think his drops were partly due to just being a freshman. He'll calm down. Already runs good routes, blocks and knows all 3 positions.
I hope you are right. I am of the mindset that he gets WAY too much credit on here because he is a white kid playing receiver.
He was about as unreliable as any receiver LSU has put on the field in a long time.
That said, Dwayne Bowe was similar until his last year, then he blew up and was unstoppable.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:21 pm to DeltaDoc
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Quinn will have a big jump in performance
quote:Competition will bring out the best in this young man. I have zero doubts that he'll come back bigger, faster, stronger, and more reliable in 2015.
He is about the be the odd man out. TJ and Dillon are about to push him down the depth chart.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:25 pm to sjmabry
I hope. And to say he got that love because he is white is false stop spreading that salt. Now if you said alumni push or the fact that he could retain the plays better than the rest you might have a point. Which the first one came from a sibling of a coach.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:29 pm to Ace Midnight
Tyron will not redshirt. At worst, special teams beast like Jarvis Landry his first season and then into a starting role by his sophomore campaign. He's too good.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:30 pm to Ghosttigerball
They could move Diarse to QB and free up a WR spot.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:30 pm to Ghosttigerball
Dupre is not a possession receiver. He has been compared to a.j. green trait-wise. He worked with Keenan lewis over last summer and lewis said with a little refinement he will be an NFL #1 wideout
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:39 pm to Ace Midnight
Is it safe to say that Upchurch, Spears and AP are afterthoughts at this point? We don't throw the ball, they have more talented players their age and younger than them coming up. Not trying to be negative, I just don't see any of those three making a huge impact. Maybe I'm wrong...
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:40 pm to Ghosttigerball
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Now if you said alumni push or the fact that he could retain the plays better than the rest you might have a point.
No pretty sure he knew the plays.. just dropped the ball
Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:43 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
It happens to the best! No defense but be for real! Landon Collins was right behind him ready to violate him. I don't think I would have caught that either. Key word longevity!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:10 pm to Ghosttigerball
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t happens to the best! No defense but be for real! Landon Collins was right behind him ready to violate him. I don't think I would have caught that either. Key word longevity!
Well if our receivers' goal is to catch the balls that ranters catch then we are fuct
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:57 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
I was at the All-American game in San Antonio and I watched Guice run the entire game from the slot and he had 2 tds when he showed good hands and excellent speed running away from the defense. MVP to.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:59 pm to Ghosttigerball
Dillon and TJ might be faster than TQ, but I know without a doubt TQ's hands/route running will be significantly better than any other slot option.
That being said, id rather TQ at X after Dural leaves, just because he is white doesn't automatically make him a slot receiver.
That being said, id rather TQ at X after Dural leaves, just because he is white doesn't automatically make him a slot receiver.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:28 pm to WestlakeTiger
Sweet. I hate doubt.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:16 pm to WestlakeTiger
X is a stretch, not that good of a legit route runner. Name one legit corner he faced in hs. And man handled. Thank you I don't think you can. And if you say white one more time like it's supposed to give or take away from his game my god. It has nothing to do with his tone. X is not his fit. Getting free in traffic is his game.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:35 am to Ghosttigerball
I see the main receiving corp nucleus being the same as last year. With Dural, Dupre, Diarse and Quin leading the tram in receiving in that order. If any Freshmen overtakes Quinn then it would be TJ, but still think TJ waits in line his freshmen year. Dillon definitely will wait in line. He is a fabulous athlete, but with proven commodities, it would not be smart to change up the receiving corps next year. Just need Brandon Harris to step up and get them the damn ball.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:41 am to SHBlake79
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Im not sure yet. It will come down to competition in spring and fall camp. Honestly between Dural, Diarse, Dupre, Johnson, Quinn, Dillon, L Fournette, Guice, Williams, D Smith, Brossette, along with a deep talented and veteran offensive line, we have weapons literally everywhere. If cam cannot get either QB to play at at least a decent level, he should be replaced. That offense is saturated with talent.
You're right, the embarrassment of riches in the skill position and a veteran O-line means the QB will have plenty of talent around him. We all agree Harris has the ability, hopefully the off-season is a productive one for him. If he can get it together, our offense can be down right scary!
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:22 am to PentagonTiger
Dear westlaketiger... To say that Quinn's route running and hands are "significantly" better than tyron Johnson's are a little homer-ish. Tyron Johnson is a finely honed wide out:hands, blocking,catch radius, route running. He was the #1 receiver in the nation on a lot of boards. Not my opinion, but straight from scouting reports. I want trey to succeed. But at this point, his hands are suspect. Don't be surprised if tj passes him by mid season.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:30 am to fierysnowman
Tyron will play early and often and have more of an impact than Quinn, and I like Quinn a lot. Btw, I wouldn't call our receivers an embarrassment of riches at this point. They are talented but not an embarrassment of riches. Dural was the only real consistent one last year. Diarse is solid and I love his game, Malachi has great potential and TQ has great ability as well but definitely struggled with some major drops. We win the Alabama game if our receivers catch the ball. Go back and look at our 3rd down drops. I can think of 2 right now in critical situations in the 2nd half. An embarrassment of riches is not a high recruiting ranking and little production in college. I'm not saying they aren't good and talented cuz I think they are. Especially having dural, Diarse, Malachi, trey, and Tyron johnson. They could be the best 5 at one time we have ever had and probably are but until they start producing in critical situations I wouldn't call them an embarrassment of riches just yet. If we had a better QB I understand they would have all had better production. I'm not saying they aren't good. I think they are super talented. I just get tired of the whole "embarrassment of riches thing". None of them have been as good as Landry or beckham yet and I know that's high standards but that's what riches are. Anyway, I'm off my soap box now. I think Tyron could be and will be the next great receiver at LSU and right now we will have to see how much of an impact dupre and Quinn have. I like em all. I'm just saying wait until they prove to be riches before u throw out the "embarrassment of riches" cliches. The potential is there and in the next 2 yrs I think it would be appropriate to say that but they haven't proved it yet
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:46 am to WestlakeTiger
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That being said, id rather TQ at X after Dural leaves
I'd need to see him play better before I make this jump - the kid has looked open, no question, but the sudden case of the drops (arguably responsible for a loss, IMHO, and I'm a TQ fan) is a concern. I'm not sure he is physical enough to replace Dural. I kind of see either TJ or Chi evolve into that role, although Quinn probably has more top end speed for the position.
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just because he is white doesn't automatically make him a slot receiver.
My concern isn't Quinn's color - it's his ability to secure the catch - he was brilliant at it in high school, but looked 100% like a freshman the last game in which he saw significant action.
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