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re: So who is right.....Guilbeau or Byrd?

Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:13 am to
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42051 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:13 am to
I am more inclined to believe someone who is out there every day practicing and catching passes from them.
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:25 am to
I can envision an 2004 year with J. russell/M. Randall/M. flynn where every pass that went up caused me to soil my pants.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2470 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:47 am to
Nobody knows what will happen with the quarterbacks yet. Guilbeau's opinion (that's all it is) is based on a limited sample of evidence. He always seems to take a glass half empty view (sans purple and gold glasses if you prefer) but that doesn't necessarily make his opinion right or more valid than any others out there.

I seem to recall prior to last year's season he had the rantards up in arms because he said Les Miles was maybe 6th or 7th best coach in the SEC. He wasn't right then, and I doubt he is this time. Is our quarterback situation the worst it has been since 1990? If we had a time machine and sent our current QBs back to 1990 I think they would have performed at a high level -- even without the coordinators and talent we now have around them.

Guilbeau doesn't know football any better than half the people that post on this board, but he does know how to organize his thoughts and write a story better than most on here. That's about it.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:53 am to
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So who is right.....Guilbeau or Byrd?


You could put practically anything in there in place of "Byrd" and the answer would be the same.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:54 am to
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I can envision an 2004 year with J. russell/M. Randall/M. flynn where every pass that went up caused me to soil my pants.


the difference being we are not trying to run Fishers pro-style offense...Crowton's got a few more options in his playbook

Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:54 am to
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Gilbeau is actually a very nice guy, and it may surprise most here that he likes LSU and wants us to win.


You are full of shite. Not as full of shite as Guilbeau, but still pleny full. You could probably fertilize a small farm while he could probably fertilize an entire rain forest.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:56 am to
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Hate Guilbeau all you want but he's right. We have NO proven quarterback and its very much a question mark.


He doesn't say we have a question mark. He says they suck. Big difference. Right now, any guess could be right. He's an a-hole because he claims his guess is backed up by facts when he doesn't have any.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 8:57 am to
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it isn't like Byrd is going to come out and say anything besides what he did.


Ditto Guilbeau. The next positive column he writes about LSU will be his first one.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 9:00 am to
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He just wants us to realize that the QB position is not going to be perfect at times.


bullshite. He goes a lot further than just "not perfect" or even "unproven". He says they flat out suck and have no ability. All he wants is to get attention and to undermine Les Miles. I don't really know why he's so pissed off at our coach, but he sure as hell is. Everything he's ever written about Miles was nothing but trash to try to tear him down. The good thing is that having some little turd like Guilbeau against you is almost as good as having someone with actual credibility on your side.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 9:02 am to
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those articles are not really directed at season ticket holders. More less, it is directed by these ranters.


A sportswriter who allows his columns to be "directed by these ranters" distinguishes himself as an exceptionally incompetent boob in a profession known for being very deep in incompetent boobs.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 9:07 am to
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If Guilbeaux is wrong he should be writing Obituaries in Mississippi in Jan 2009.


He should be doing that regardless of whether he's right or wrong. If I predict disaster every day, there are going to be some days when a disaster actually occurs and I'll be right. But it still won't mean I have a shred of credibility.

When the day comes that we read HIS obituary, the sports journalism world will have just increased its average competence and intelligence level.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35444 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 9:11 am to
Didn't even read the post, but I can assure you Byrd is correct.

That being said, we have three top flight receivers backed up by some very solid guys. I think is the QB's don't try to force too many balls our WR can get them away from anyone.

My only real worry is Dickson. He's a little smaller than some of your prototypical TE's and the QB needs to be on the money or there is a good possibility that a LBer can pic the ball off.

That being said, I will maintain confidence that our coaches will put the team, QB's and WR's in the best position to succeed.

Byrd =
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33137 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 10:15 am to
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Reality is probably somewhere in between. Some plays will look good, while others will show their inexperience.
More likely "Guilbleaux", (because he bleaux's), is alluding to one or two passes or routes that Hatch cannot complete, i.e., the long ball down the field more than 25 yards or a specific out route down the sidelines where Hatch has to lay it in there perfectly to avoid an INT or otherwise the ball goes out of bounds on an errant pass. (this is the pass Byrd was referring to).

It's perfectly conceivable that Hatch CANNOT make that throw, and that Guilbleaux, in his infinite wisdom, takes that one pass out of context to say that the overall QB situation sucks at LSU in order to write an inflammatory article which gets all the Rantards up in arms and talking about him (which is what he wants).

So was Guilbleaux wrong in his overall assessment? YES. Was he correct in his micro assessment of Hatch's abilities on one or two particular throws? YES.
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8253 posts
Posted on 8/20/08 at 10:33 pm to
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Did anybody think Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford would lay up 29 and 36tds in the frosh seasons......hell no.




Do you think any of our QB's will duplicate performances like those?


To say there is no chance for any of our QB's to do this is crazy. Is it likely? No. But its possible.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 8/21/08 at 12:13 am to
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So who is right.....Guilbeau or
I got about that far and knew the answer to the question. Whether you were talking about Demetrius Byrd or Paul Byrd or Richard Byrd, I would pick them to be right over the dipshit.

Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8253 posts
Posted on 8/21/08 at 12:31 am to
Guilbleaux is a maggot.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12495 posts
Posted on 8/21/08 at 12:37 am to
I'm taking this from the point that Crowton isn't an idot. He recruited Hatch and wanted Hatch to come to LSU. He must see something in Hatch to believe he can get the job done. Lee appears to be capable (from what we've heard) of the job also so there's no need to panic. There's going to be a lot of growing pains because of the lack of playing time. In the end, they'll do the job. Both QB's have the benefit of an experienced O-line and WR corp.

This post was edited on 8/21/08 at 12:38 am
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56581 posts
Posted on 8/21/08 at 1:11 am to
GG is a Finebaum want-a-be. I read an article of his one time hwne he wrote about the 92 NC team at BAMA and about how he always wanted to come to BAMA and write about a team like that some day. He later took another job and moved to Mobile and then we went on probation and LSU took off and went to the top. Then he ended up back in La.

That made me feel as if he is just chasing the big story. I don't think he has any loyalty to LSU, just as Finecum has none to BAMA. I do not care for this type of writer.

Just my opinion.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23223 posts
Posted on 8/21/08 at 1:25 am to
I have no problem with a writer who has no loyalaties as long as what they write is of substance.......

Comparing our qbs to the 90s without ever, EVER, seeing either play a meaningful snap in college ball is unprofessional and a slap in the face to both players.

I'd pretty much bet my life Glen never played a snap in his life, but for the sake of the slowflows of the world who feel that doesn't mean anything when discussing football, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Either way...........writing shite like this before you have a useful measuring stick to write a check like this makes Glen........well.....an entertainer and not a reporter!
This post was edited on 8/21/08 at 1:26 am
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