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re: So who gets credit for locking up Aranda?

Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:01 am to
Posted by zed44
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:01 am to
The binder
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:04 am to
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Meanwhile he is setting offensive records using Miles/Cameron antiquated system. You dumb Baw!
ha ha. Its amazing how miles never got credit for good offenses yet a career dline coach that HAS NEVER been anything on offense gets the credit.
Why dont you want to keep Ensminger as OC? Ed orgeron knows frick all about running an offense.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:13 am to
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He's left this program loaded on every level


You really believe that?

Miles hired Aranda and O.

247 Composite Recruiting Rankings:
2014 No. 2
2015 No. 3
2016 No. 3
2017 No. 5

Yeah, I really do.
Posted by TFS4E
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:15 am to
The Mead Corporation
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:22 am to
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You really believe that?



Are you kidding? Our last 4 recruiting classes are stacked
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:23 am to
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ha ha. Its amazing how miles never got credit for good offenses yet a career dline coach that HAS NEVER been anything on offense gets the credit. Why dont you want to keep Ensminger as OC? Ed orgeron knows frick all about running an offense.


You must have the memory of an infant child. Do you recall the offense under Miles? I think it is more appropriate to refer to it as the lack of offense as the other way would imply that there was something.
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:26 am to
Les forgot to field an offense 8 out of 11 years...

He also chose his buddy Cam over the improvement of the programs.

Facts.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 11:27 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:27 am to
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u must have the memory of an infant child. Do you recall the offense under Miles? I think it is more appropriate to refer to it as the lack of offense as the other way would imply that there was something.


You clearly dont remember that ed orgeron WASNT RUNNING THE OFFENSE. Ed orgeron knows frick all about running an offense. Its amazing how a dline coach is getting praise for our offense during his tenure. You cant praise our offense under Orgeron and then say you dont want Ensminger as the oc.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:28 am to
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Les forgot to field an offense 8 out of 11 years...



Wrong. Its like some of you dont know that you can look shite up before posting.Some of the most productive offenses in lsu history are under miles.

2006,2007,2011,2013,2015(outside of 2 games)were good offenses.

But let me guess they were in spite of miles.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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26236 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:36 am to
Alleva and CEO! Suck it!
Posted by IvanCCCP
U.S.A.
Member since Oct 2016
698 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:36 am to
Alleva. If he gets blamed for everything bad, he gets credit for the good.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6497 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:38 am to
Nick Saban,he gets credit for everything else
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:42 am to
You think 2011 fielded a good offense? With Lee and Jefferson? Sure it was efficient, but do you think that had anything to do with having one of the best defenses in history? With an average starting field position only second to Boise St.?

I'll give you 2011 by default. So only 7/11 years


2015? Really? So offense wasn't an issue last year? Les is that you?


Do you watch football outside of LSU?
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 11:44 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215971 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:42 am to
Maybe if Miles did like O did and let Cam run the offense Les may still have a job..... coach O let his OC run the offense and let the talent do what it should have all along... the players themselves have said that they ran plays in practice yet Miles would not let them do the in a game....
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:45 am to
He quotes stats that are, at best, misleading. Besides who cares about the stats if one is not winning championships. That is all that matters.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:53 am to
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You think 2011 fielded a good offense?


Our qbs combined for 19 tds-5 ints.

we were 3rd in the sec in yards per play. so yes our offense was good in 2011. it surely couldnt be described as bad.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:55 am to
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2015? Really? So offense wasn't an issue last year? Les is that you?



4th in the sec in offensive yards per game. finished with more offensive yards per game than bama,ohio state and fsu. but hey dont let facts get in the way

3rd in the sec in offensive points per game. But hey i know facts dont matter to a portion of posters on here.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 11:56 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:57 am to
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Maybe if Miles did like O did and let Cam run the offense Les may still have a job..... coach O let his OC run the offense and let the talent do what it should have all along... the players themselves have said that they ran plays in practice yet Miles would not let them do the in a game....


Youre not a good coach if your best attribute is not knowing enough to get in the way. The best coaches in cfb are hands on.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:58 am to
Rick, they lost too many games. What difference does it make what the stats were if they lose the darn games. That is the only stat that matters. LSU lost FOUR this year. 4(four) and their Oline is touted as one of the best. Say what??!
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:59 am to
You got me, we were better than Bama, Ohio St., and FSU last year. Hell we even went to the playoffs and won a championship because offense wasn't a liability at all.

Couldn't be that those teams hardly needed to play from behind or anything. Maybe running out the clock.


You keep living in dream world where LSU hasn't been consistently terrible on one side of the ball. Stats are just numbers without context.
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