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So what's the rule on D line shifts.... no penalty called on later shifts.

Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
20290 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:07 am
Is it called only if O lineman moves ?
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
1748 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:10 am to
I noticed that too.

1. Incredibly stupid rule
2. I would jump every time if I were an Olineman
3. We should stop doing it
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39352 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:12 am to
I believe you can’t shout, clap, or do anything that would simulate a snap count. If it’s just the DL changing their assignments then it’s fine. Kelly got in the refs ear about that. If the DL isn’t allowed to shift before the snap then that’s asinine.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50628 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:13 am to
had to have been a player saying something or clapping when the penalty was called
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3020 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:13 am to
They did not give us the penalty for shifting, they said it was for disconcerting signals. The ref clearly thought he heard someone in our front 7 yell something that sounded like Moss's cadence. Honestly, there is literally no way for any of us to know whether someone on the DL may have yelled something out to simulate the snap getting USC to jump, so there is no point of continuing this conversation.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
14185 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:16 am to
The officials inferred LSU called out a signal to coordinate the shift like that. Kelly let them know they shifted off the offense’s signal. They didn’t call it on LSU again.

Too little, too late unfortunately. It was a big penalty.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2385 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:27 am to
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3. We should stop doing it


Lost me here. Dline shifting is huge for the scheme and all defenses do it. We shouldn't stop doing something, because a ref got convinced to make a bad a call by an opposing qb.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
54603 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:30 am to
Man when they came out at 2nd and 5 instead of 2nd and 15 I was like WTF. was watching without sound at the time

Between that and the "catch" that clearly hit the ground that they were never gonna overturn, that drive was killer
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9588 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:

because a ref got convinced to make a bad a call by an opposing qb


This. I'm convinced that they changed the call because they talked to the QB. Refs shouldn't be allowed to talk about a penalty with a player. If the ref didn't hear anything, how is that a penalty?
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
18276 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:41 am to
I mean let’s be real….we know what we’re doing by hard group shifting all at once.

It just sucks that it’s actually getting enforced
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1687 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:41 am to
It’s gonna be a problem all year because it’s 100% judgement based and no two crews will see it the same
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
54603 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:44 am to
quote:

we know what we’re doing by hard group shifting all at once.


Which is not against the rules.

Clap or simulate the snap? Yea u can't do that (disconcerting signals)
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
44495 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:54 am to
Looked like Weeks yelled out to draw the penalty, the shift itself wasn’t the problem
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1666 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:04 am to
Yes, you could see Weeks yelling something right before the d line shifted.
So it would appear to be the same rule as last year.

Back to the OP’s question, who knows lol- not sure what the commentators were referring to.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1230 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:09 am to
Almost every call is judgement based.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1230 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:10 am to
Did we not have the same call last year as well? Did we learn from it..
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3290 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Did we not have the same call last year as well? Did we learn from it..


There's a change in the rules this year.

It says the defense cannot simulate snap movement As an attempt to draw a false start.

It's intentionally vague.
Posted by Jamey21
Jamestown , Tennessee
Member since Jul 2019
898 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:30 am to
NONE OF YALL NO THE CLEAR MEANING OF THE RULE!

The reason it was called was because you can't clap or "shift" within one yard of the line of scrimmage !!!!

If you are beyond one yard ,you are allowed to do the quick shift motion without occurring a penalty.

Ya, Its a totally new stupid rule that is ridiculous
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54623 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Man when they came out at 2nd and 5 instead of 2nd and 15 I was like WTF. was watching without sound at the time

Between that and the "catch" that clearly hit the ground that they were never gonna overturn, that drive was killer


Correct. Two blatantly bad calls gave Bama, wait, sorry, USC, at TD they didn't deserve.

I hate when refs are allowed to rig games like that. Just takes the fun out of watching it. Despite the blatant frickery, LSU still should have won, but they have Brian Kelly.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2557 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:47 am to
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NONE OF YALL NO...


Maybe we should focus on English more and football less?
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