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re: So what did CEH do? UPDATE: CEH involved in fatal shooting

Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:13 pm to
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My bad oh great one, master


You don't take being proven wrong well huh?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33419 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:16 pm to
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You don't take being proven wrong well huh?


I take it fine. Just appreciate people talking in a condescending manner to me.

I cant even believe I wrote that. I cant even find what I was looking at earlier. I think im going crazy.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61638 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:08 pm to
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I was simply pointing out the LA armed robbery laws


No you weren't. You were clearly citing armed robbery laws as a way of suggesting it will negatively affect CEH if the attacker was carrying a BB gun. Quick crawfishing.

So, be specific. What is the relevance of the armed robbery statute as it relates to self defense.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61638 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:10 pm to
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why is it in his best interest?



Because killing someone, even in self defense, is a traumatic experience.
Posted by cajunfantasy
south la.
Member since Nov 2009
11 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:11 pm to
Just so you know the law cause a lot of you think that googling bb gun, etc will actually give you a real answer...I stated that by LA law it has to be a dangerous weapon..if any of you had been to court before you might have known this...a fake gun, bb gun, whatever will not be be charged as Armed Robbery in this state and successfully prosecuted.... By it being fake or bb gun it changes the standard for REASONABLE...would a reasonable person have acted in self defense...Don't watch law and order and think you know anything about real law or courts...
Read the statute...

A. Armed robbery is the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another or that is in the immediate control of another, by use of force or intimidation, while armed with a dangerous weapon.

there is also a fire arm addendum that adds 5 years to minimum 10 year sentence....
Learn what you are talking about..Real Law is different than TV or Internet...
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:40 pm to
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A. Armed robbery is the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another or that is in the immediate control of another, by use of force or intimidation, while armed with a dangerous weapon


Why don't you look up the section where it discusses the use of fake weapons in an armed robbery. Using a BB gun, under the assumption that it is a deadly weapon, is ARMED ROBBERY.

I don't even know what you are attempting to accomplish with this. The guy that committed the armed robbery will not be charged with shite.....he's dead. So, discussing a charge is irrelevant.

For the purpose of CEH, the courts will absolutely view this BB gun as him defending himself against a deadly force and it will be ruled a justified homicide. He will face zero jail time, and will not even step foot in a court.

The police department will do the same as they do in all cases. The case will be investigated, a report made, and it will be sent to the DAs office. The DA will determine it was justified, agree with the police department, and life will go on as normal for everyone except the dude that is dead.

As others have said, if you rob somebody, with your hand in your pocket and tell them you have a gun (even if you don't) it is armed robbery.

Learn your laws before coming here acting like you know what you are talking about, because you do not in this case.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61638 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

Just so you know the law cause a lot of you think that googling bb gun, etc will actually give you a real answer...I stated that by LA law it has to be a dangerous weapon..if any of you had been to court before you might have known this...a fake gun, bb gun, whatever will not be be charged as Armed Robbery in this state and successfully prosecuted.... By it being fake or bb gun it changes the standard for REASONABLE...would a reasonable person have acted in self defense...Don't watch law and order and think you know anything about real law or courts...
Read the statute...

A. Armed robbery is the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another or that is in the immediate control of another, by use of force or intimidation, while armed with a dangerous weapon.

there is also a fire arm addendum that adds 5 years to minimum 10 year sentence....
Learn what you are talking about..Real Law is different than TV or Internet...



What does the Armed Robbery Statute (that you are very likely misinterpreting) have to do with self defense?
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:19 pm to
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What does the Armed Robbery Statute (that you are very likely misinterpreting) have to do with self defense?


He is trying to say that using a BB Gun is not armed robbery, therefore CEH may be in some shite since he killed somebody when there was no threat of deadly force being used against him.

In short....he has no clue what he's talking about.
Posted by Kk74
Mobile
Member since Jun 2017
1193 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:26 pm to
I feel so bad for these kids. Hope they don’t get in too much trouble.
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
749 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103075 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:22 pm to
Thanks for posting this. For those that don't want to click the link.
quote:

Moore agrees with Baton Rouge Police detectives. Whichever player shot Johnson to death — Clyde Edwards-Helaire or Jared Small — did it out of self defense.

"From what I know and what I have seen and heard, this is a totally justified shooting," Moore said in a phone interview with the USA Today Network Friday afternoon. "From what I've been able to gather, and I was at the scene and in the interviews with the two players, it was totally justifiable under the circumstances."
Posted by Skooter
Member since Jun 2008
2255 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 8:49 am to
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cajunfantasy


It's cute (and annoying) to see you come on here in an attempt to correct everyone else and instead watch you display your blatant ignorance. In short, you're flat-out wrong.

You don't have to go to court to read case law, which you should have done before posting. It is very much settled in Louisiana that a toy gun, bb gun, finger in pocket, etc satisfy the dangerous weapon standard when the person being robbed reasonably believes it to be a dangerous weapon and acts in self-defense accordingly. The fact that it turns out to be a bb gun or even a toy gun, doesn't change the perception of the person acting in self defense. If you went to law school and don't know this, I'm very very sad for your clients.
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