re: So what did CEH do? UPDATE: CEH involved in fatal shooting

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All of the cases I found, none of the ones that lived were charged with armed robbery

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Where is this crowd coming from? So much wrong here, being presented like they know. Why just make something up, when you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Had he survived he would absolutely have been arrested under an armed robbery charge.

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Several problems going on legally in this "Armed Robbery", self defense shooting in case you are not familiar with LA law....in an Armed Robbery the attacker must be in possession of a "Dangerous, life threatening weapon" not one that someone thought was dangerous...If indeed the suspect had a BB gun and not a real gun, then the LSU players have serious issues...Likely that the reason no updates is that LSU and the DA office is figuring how to handle this case...It will likely go to a Grand Jury and a not be tried as everyone can understand if they are in the same situation..but if a BB gun was what Kobe had the CEH and the other player do have more issues than most would be aware of...will be surprised if he made trip to Fiesta bowl...hope he did...LA law on armed robbery is very specific noted than someone said that bringing a bb gun is like bringing a knife to a gun fight...the players would have been better if it was a knife that qualifies as a dangerous weapon...stay tuned..

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This whole thing is so wrong that I actually laughed while reading it.

Had to make sure it wasn’t posted by el gaucho or LucasP’s resurrected corpse.

Not that it matters since it was reasonable self defense, but The LA Supreme Court has already ruled that a robbery committed while brandishing a BB gun that looks like a real gun can meet the elements of armed robbery due to the dangerous situation it creates.

It would likely also fit the elements of First Degree Robbery where the offender robs the victim while leading the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon. An example of this would be pointing a stick in someone back and telling them you’ve got a gun or passing a letter to a bank teller telling her to give you the money in the drawer because you have a pistol in your pocket.

But again none of that matters if CEH reasonably believed he and his friend were in danger.

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This whole thing is so wrong that I actually laughed while reading it.

Had to make sure it wasn’t posted by el gaucho or LucasP’s resurrected corpse.

Not that it matters since it was reasonable self defense, but The LA Supreme Court has already ruled that a robbery committed while brandishing a BB gun that looks like a real gun can meet the elements of armed robbery due to the dangerous situation it creates.

It would likely also fit the elements of First Degree Robbery where the offender robs the victim while leading the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon. An example of this would be pointing a stick in someone back and telling them you’ve got a gun or passing a letter to a bank teller telling her to give you the money in the drawer because you have a pistol in your pocket.

But again none of that matters if CEH reasonably believed he and his friend were in danger.

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100% FACT.


I don't know where these two morons came from all of a sudden in this thread.

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This whole thing is so wrong that I actually laughed while reading it. I don't know where these two morons came from all of a sudden in this thread.

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I plan to "negotiate" with perps with real guns next time I am being robbed. Maybe I can politely ask them if the gun is "really loaded with real" bullets.

Said no one ever while being robbed.

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You know just as much as I do or less

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I can’t speak for the other poster but I definitely know more than you.

If he’d survived the shooting he would have been arrested for Armed Robbery.... well Attempted Armed Robbery because he never actually took possession of what he was trying to rob.

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I plan to "negotiate" with perps with real guns next time I am being robbed. Maybe I can politely ask them if the gun is "really loaded with real" bullets

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Sadly some people in this thread use this logic. If some were in this situation, it would go down like this..

-first, they wouldn't have guns...because guns are the problem here. So, during the robbery only the robbery would have a weapon, because we all know they don't follow laws.

- then you must next ask the robber intends to kill them. Can never be too sure right? If he doesn't plan on killing you, then no harm no foul.

- then you must ask the robber if his gun is real and/or loaded.

- then you throw down with the robber (cause remember, weapons are bad), or let him steal your shite.

Do more research Kengel2......Google is Easy

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Ok, sounds good, wasnt replying to you, but thats cool. You want a cookie?

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You were wrong. Take it like a man, and admit it and move on. No need to be a bitch because you were proven to not know what the hell you are talking about.

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You were wrong. Take it like a man, and admit it and move on. No need to be a bitch because you were proven to not know what the hell you are talking about.

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I was wrong, but you arent 100% right either so you cant be this high and mighty hardass douchbag you are trying to be.