re: so, this is really it? back to mediocrity?

UGA would've beat LSU in the SECCG last year. Sorry to say.

I been watching since 1957. You nailed it...we are back to Chollie Mc and the Bear.

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Yeh dumbass our shitty offense and championship caliber defense was all Krags fault

Who did the jackass make OC?

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You said he didn't make moves to improve our offense and you were wrong.

He hired Kragthorpe who we all thought was a great hire. Unfortunately he was diagnosed with Parkinson's and couldn't fulfill his duties.

WTF else was Miles supposed to do in August except promote from within.

He kept Stud as the OC because we just went to the damn NC game. You don't fire your OC when you just made it to the NC game I don't care how bad our offense was that game.

After a year of allowing Stud to attempt to prove himself he went out and got the very best possible man for the job who has completely turned our offense around.

So don't fricking tell me that Les didn't do anything to attempt to fix the offensive problems.

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Oh, I thought Miles was the head football coach. I didn't know his coordinators made calls that he couldn't override. I guess if he could, he'd tell them the Warecat, 54 yard FG attempt, and FG fake were bad ideas. Yeah, maybe he wasn't to blame.

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i love that people forget that les got us there with two of the worst qbs in college football. there are maybe 3 or 4 coaches in cfb that could have got that team to the ncg or put together that defense.

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Welcome to Excuse University

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also to a reasonable person they are know as facts.

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I been watching since 1957. You nailed it...we are back to Chollie Mc and the Bear.

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Bingo!

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I've been watching LSU since the late 1970s, really paying attention since the 1980s. During that time, the school's been through peaks and valleys; however, only a few times were we "elite" or in that class.

However, for the most part, due to any number of factors (weak coaching (1970s, late 80s/90s/present, ineptitute in the AD (late 80s/early 90s), recruiting stumbles), LSU had been a "little better than average also-ran" in the SEC (and nationally).

In the 1980s, LSU flirted with the edge of becoming elite; however, Arnsparger left and the Archer hire derailed that.

In the 90s, Dinardo recognized the potential, put some things in motion that would help later, but he was not the guy to get it done.

That guy was here in the early 2000s and with a Chancellor and AD on board, made LSU elite. He left to pursue his dream (NFL) and LSU made a fateful decision, it hired Les Miles.

For a time Miles held the reins and maintained. Actually getting an NC six years ago with the help of a lot of those other guy's players. With the exception of the 2011 season, since the last of those players left, LSU has been mediocre at best - hearkening back to the mid/late 70s, and mid 90s, when 3-4 loss season and a mid/low tier bowl was the best we could hope for.

The problem is, Miles is still trying to "maintain.". It is his style. It's how he coaches. Little variance to gameplan, weak adjustments (if any). If LSU gets a lead - just hang on.

In the meantime, in addition to the fact that other guy has built a machine in Tuscaloosa (and, sadly, isn't going anywhere anytime soon), other teams (in and out of conference) have become, or are becoming elite. LSU is getting passed by, both in and out of conference.

Now, whether aTm will stay where it is after douchebag leaves remains to be seen; however, Ole Miss is good and getting better, and Auburn appears to be for real - and that's just the West.

It's not going to get any better with Miles as HC. LSU will continue to be undisiplined, will continue to make critical mistakes, will continue to underperform and will continue to lack the mental toughness necessary to soldier on and ALL of that is coaching. It was all laid bare on 1/9/12 and LSU has never recovered.

Since that date, that other guy has owned LSU. He has "made their asses quit" because he knows he can (he's done it before). Sadly, other coaches/programs know it to.

Being elite was fun while it lasted, but we are, in every sense of the word, back to being "average" at best as long as Miles is coach.

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Very solid post. Not a thing in it can be refuted, sadly.

It is what it is.

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I think bob stoops could do just as well in miles position

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umm no.

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at a university that recruits itself

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ou recruits itself more than lsu does. yet he has done nothing but not win anything lately in a crappier conference and get killed by the sec.

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at a university that recruits itself

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I wish someone would've told the 90s that

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being absolutely decimated by the draft

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Has anyone on this board ever wondered WHY this happened ? Just asking, because I know I sure have.