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re: So many players are leaving early.

Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25961 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:18 pm to
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We just need to play players earlier and bench the older players.




I mean, WUT
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127336 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:18 pm to
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I don't want to hear

Perhaps you should consider not reading the Rant.
Posted by Cajun Invasion
Abbeville, Louisianna
Member since Jan 2012
1799 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:20 pm to
Well you need to get use to the fact that college football is nothing but the minors for the nfl. Always has been really.
Posted by swlaLSUfan
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:22 pm to
3yrs in college football must be the only goal the young players have.

For the ones that try for a shot in the NFL and don't make it are going to go through life without a degree that could better their life down the road.

I know career ending injuries can happen at anytime but you can never loose a degree.
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:26 pm to
Some guys prob should stay (Sonic Sam) but most did OK.

What if Ford stayed? Does he take away touches from the other 3? How many does he get?

Simon prob should have stayed but how many of you were glad to see him leave?

I think redshirting now is pointless unless injury related. If theyre good theyre gone after 3 yrs.

Who doesnt want to get paid?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27449 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:26 pm to
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For the ones that try for a shot in the NFL and don't make it are going to go through life without a degree that could better their life down the road.


So they're not allowed to go back to school once their playing days are over?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27449 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Some guys prob should stay (Sonic Sam) but most did OK.


Dude was at LSU for four years. What more do you want?

He was tired of waking up at 7 a.m. and going to learn about the History of Western Civilization.
Posted by RainChance0
Houston
Member since May 2013
541 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:28 pm to
5*'s three deep at every position and more juniors will stay.
Posted by ragincajunkarl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
568 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:29 pm to
Kentucky basketball has one-and-done players all the time and how do you think they do?
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10371 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:31 pm to
I didn't even read the thread, my mind is blown by how stupid the rant gets.

This is how I feel everytime I read the rant LINK
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26788 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:33 pm to
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For some reason, Alabama seems to have a few star juniors return every year.

McCarron, Jones, Mosley... and now DePriest.




All four year players (if depriest comes back) except McCarron.

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It would be nice if we could occasionally return at least one high profile junior each year.


We returned six in 2012
Mingo, Montgomery, Logan, Ford, Minter, Faulk
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30763 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:37 pm to
Oh, now we are comparing LSU football to Kentucky basketball.




Way, way, different.
Posted by deSandman
Member since Mar 2007
969 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:50 pm to
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I don't expect a repeat of 2012 but don't act like LSU has never had players declare early. There are always 1-2 each year.



I guess, but the bar is much, much lower than it ever has been before.

I mean Landry and Beckham are both likely to be drafted later than any other WR early declarent in LSU history, and these two are among the guys that it makes the most sense to leave.

I can't remember a guy who wasn't at least first team All-SEC ever leaving until last year, now it seems that any junior starter is expected to go.
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:00 pm to
The word is out. (Pumpers, Cheerleaders and those with short attention spans stop reading right now and move on)

LSU aint "Elite" any longer.

There's no incentive to stay in school, struggle in the classroom and play for third place in the S.E.C. West. No incentive to bust your arse on the practice field and return for the chance to play in a high protein animal meat Bowl.

They know what the coaching situation is.

They have no interest in academics, getting a degree, Louisiana State University or the football program sponsored by said school. They want to play for an S.E.C. and National Championship. In their eyes, there is little to no hope for that, so the "Lure of da N.F.L. $$$$$$$$ Animal" is the primary motivation and THEY GONE!

They "Stick" a little longer at other places because maybe they feel there's hope for a Championship and feel that hanging around another year is worth it. At LSU, not so much.

That's why I ranted a few days ago about the initiation and implimentation of a pro football minor league system just like in baseball. Make your choice right out of high school. Go the pro route and play professional football or go play college football for four years. No flip flopping either. If you decide on the pro route out of HS, then the forfeiture of the right to play college football goes into effect. Don't make it as a professional for whatever reasons, then go flip burgers or work at Wal-Mart.

You makes your choices and takes your chances!

BTW, the word is also out with high school recruits as well. No way LSU should ever be losing so many Louisiana HS Blue Chippers to out of state SEC schools. There's no in-state competition and unacceptable to be losing a higher % of Louisiana recruits with each passing season. More power to the Leonard Fournette's of Louisisna, but there's currently a "Perception" out there (Whether or not it's based in reality) that you're more likely to win an SEC/National Championship and be better prepared for the NFL if you go elsewhere. Whether or not if that's reality doesn't matter. There's a growing perception that it is and that's troubling. Why would the number one Offensive Lineman in the state of Louisisna want to go play football for Alabama?

Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:08 pm to
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Well you need to get use to the fact that college football is nothing but the minors for the nfl. Always has been really.


Not always but last 30 years, yeah! Let's face it, most of our football players are not really students. They wouldn't be in college if they didn't play football. They hate academics and can't wait to get out of here.
Posted by brickman
mandeville,la.
Member since Apr 2009
294 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:17 pm to
We play so many freshman.I saw that 15 played this year again.By the time they are in there 3rd year they are ready for the nfl.Like Landon Colins at bama didn't hardly see the field his first season and only started this year because of an injury.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:29 pm to
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BRAVEHEART


Son, you are a retard.

LSU is presently a top 5 program nationwide.

We have guys leaving early because we have a lot of talent.

Think about it, we had two RBs leave last year because THEY DID NOT WANT TO COMPETE FOR PLAYING TIME AT LSU.

Odell and Jarvis SHOULD go pro. They are guaranteed to both be drafted in the top 3 rounds, which means they are NFL starters.

Every 5 years, we get 125 scholarships. Out of these, we get to keep 85 on scholarship. Do you really think we won't have 85 scholarship players? Do you want 85 blue chippers? Or would you prefer 45 blue chippers and 40 "student athletes"?

We are upset over the lose of four kids. FOUR. Hootie Jones thought he was better than he was, snubbed us for Bama and we UPGRADED. When we didn't return his calls because we had a better player, he went crawling back to Alabama.

Speedy Noil apparently did not want to compete with Dupre and Quinn. We will see how he likes playing in College Station now that their once-in-a-generation QB is gone and their coach will be gone after his freshman season.

Gerald Willis must really just want to leave the state. He had an opportunity to play for championships early and instead is going to a team that has decent players at his position and his position only. Florida won't go 4-8 again, but they will be no better than 8-4, which will mean a new coach for him too. He'll be fine, because he has talent. But Valentine will be a fine replacement. Willis will regret his choice ultimately.

Cam Robinson is the only real loss here. He is a rare talent. But there was no way that kid was coming here. We were only in play because we were the home state school. He is the only one that we can be critical of the coaching staff for. Had Bama not gotten the mulligan and whipped us in 2011 and had we not played prevent at the end of both halves in 2012, this might all be a different story. And, maybe if Cameron Robinson were born with more love in his heart for where he is from (a la Fournette) maybe it all wouldn't have mattered. Maybe if Cam Robinson didn't hear LSU "fans" dog on its coaching staff and laud the guy in Alabama so much, he might not have been so willing to be a turncoat. It is what it is.

Of course, we have signed a top safety and top CB from Texas. We have a great DE coming from Oklahoma. We have a great DB coming from Mississippi and an absolute beast MLB coming from Illinois. These guys all want to be part of something special. They politely disagree with you, Mr. "BRAVEHEART" that LSU "ain't 'Elite' any longer."

LSU is elite. LSU will have (yet again) a top 5 recruiting class. LSU will (yet again) be in a position in 2014 and 2015 to play for a national title. LSU fans like you would do more for the program if you would only STFU and enjoy winning 10+ games a year with a shot at all of the marbles EVERY YEAR instead of lamenting.

This program's #1 enemy is its own fans.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10441 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:43 pm to
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So they're not allowed to go back to school once their playing days are over?


Not for free. Hopefully they will have money left.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10441 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:50 pm to
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This program's #1 enemy is its own fans


I see your points, but other school's fans are the same way.

LSU's fans are actually great for the program. LSU is 32-1 at home in recent years. It's great to be in that stadium on Saturday nights!
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Is this going to happen every year?


we live in hope that it will not but, as I have stated before, LSU seldom recruits kids from affluent backgrounds.

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And will this be the new excuse if LSU loses?


a valid explanation is not an excuse.

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Seems like this is going to be a every year thing, and will prevent us from reaching our full potential.


only time will tell.

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