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So I'm confused about this inequality....

Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:12 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:12 pm
Les miles job security is tied to arguments constantly revolving around having to replace him with a proven winner...and how unlikely that will be, and lead to downfall, apocalypse, dogs and cats living together, etc....

Yet Miles record at okieState over 4 years was just 28-21.

There are MANY MANY coaches with better records at similar schools right now.

If Miles could come here with a 28-21 record and do so well, why couldnt a coach with a better record from a similar situation come in and do even better?

Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:14 pm to
Duck.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

If Miles could come here with a 28-21 record and do so well, why couldnt a coach with a better record from a similar situation come in and do even better?



Do you really want to make that gamble, though? Miles wins a lot of games in a tough conference. The problem is do you want to pay a coach $4 million a year for a team that will finish 3rd or 4th in the division.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:15 pm to
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The problem is do you want to pay a coach $4 million a year for a team that will finish 3rd or 4th in the division.
i mean, since we are already doing that and all...
Posted by jlc05
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:15 pm to
Charlie Mac round 2!
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:16 pm to
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The problem is do you want to pay a coach $4 million a year for a team that will finish 3rd or 4th in the division.


thats what we're doing RIGHT NOW.

FAIL.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:16 pm to
Don't feed the troll....OP has been shitting on Miles all over the board today. Nothing to see here.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:17 pm to
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thats what we're doing RIGHT NOW.

FAIL.


Holy shite. That's what I meant, dumbass. Do you REALLY think we're going to hire a new coach that hasn't won big and pay him $4 mil a year? I was talking about MILES!
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:17 pm to
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Don't feed the troll...


I'm not trolling, I saw the stat in another thread and it got me thinking....

If you can answer it I'd love to hear the rationale.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:18 pm to
Do you ever get tired of being stupid? I guess not.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:18 pm to
There are 1, maybe 2 current college coaches who can get you 11-12 wins and in the NC hunt every year. Saban, Meyer.


If you're looking for a coach who will definitely do a better job than Miles, they will be few an far between. Having good recruiting is overrated and doesn't mean you will win easy. Look at USC, Texas, and Florida.

Firing Miles would be an insane risk because the odds are extremely low you get someone better. It's much more likely that what will happen is what happened to A&M after they fired Slocum or Nebraska after they fired Solich. A fanbase got spoiled and thought "always above average and occasional NC contender" wasn't good enough, and they ended up with a complete dumpster fire as a result
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Firing Miles would be an insane risk because the odds are extremely low you get someone better. It's much more likely that what will happen is what happened to A&M after they fired Slocum or Nebraska after they fired Solich. A fanbase got spoiled and thought "always above average and occasional NC contender" wasn't good enough, and they ended up with a complete dumpster fire as a result



Exactly.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
18983 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:22 pm to
Someone calling him out is shitting on him? Please! He deserves any and all criticism for decisions that he is making as the head coach of this team. He is lauded for making good decisions and criticized for making questionable ones.

Poor Miles. Wtf is wrong with you pussies. He is absolutely fair game!!
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:23 pm to
yes we should listen to the bama fan. of course bama fans want us to keep miles around.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36985 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Firing Miles would be an insane risk because the odds are extremely low you get someone better. It's much more likely that what will happen is what happened to A&M after they fired Slocum or Nebraska after they fired Solich. A fanbase got spoiled and thought "always above average and occasional NC contender" wasn't good enough, and they ended up with a complete dumpster fire as a result


Post of the day. Much truth contained here.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62291 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:26 pm to
I mean. No one is gonna be better than Saban, so it really doesn't matter.

I truly do not believe there is a coach who can do significantly better than Miles has (aside from Saban and maybe Meyer).



The gap between Saban and everyone else has made good coaches look worse than they are. And no one has felt that sting more than LSU fans, because Saban used to be LSU's coach. Plain and simple. And understandable.
Posted by floridatiger2
Member since Sep 2006
622 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:33 pm to
We can't fill stadiums and we're building more seats, we complain about the winningest coach in school history........and you want new student/athletes to come 'here' ! Maybe when our spring games draw 90,000+ instead of 25,000, and when we actually root for our team year in and year out, thru thick and thin, instead of whining when we don't win the bcs every year. 'we' don't deserve a better coach; or rather, 'we' haven't earned it !!!

Posted by crobe18
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2011
518 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:34 pm to
So the new bar has been set correct? All the Miles lovers are now content with 3 loss seasons. 3 losses is the new par for LSU LSU is no longer a top 5 program and you are all fine with that. 1-3 in bowl games makes you all happy. A complete blow out in the national championship game doesn't matter either. Top 10 recruiting classes the past 6 of 8 years, yet its the recruits fault we are losing game. Ever think that just maybe the talent is being under utilized and under coached? Here are your class rankings since 2006:
2006 #7
2007 #4
2008 #11
2009 #2
2010 #6
2011 #6
2012 #18
2013 #6
I guess that Miles isn't the great recruiter we all thought he was? I mean that has always been the main support behind the man, He gets the talent in every year right? Why hasn't it panned out? I am sure his locking down of in state talent is still continuing also. I mean Bama hasn't come in here the past 5 years and taken away any 5 stars correct?
Keep the sunshine pumping up guys, Miles is doing a great job with the new standards set by yourselves and Alleva.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133654 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

So I'm confused
You're confused often from what I can tell....

What successful coach in a difficult conference would WANT to come to LSU if LSU fires a head coach with an 80% winning record?
Posted by floridatiger2
Member since Sep 2006
622 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:36 pm to
"I mean. No one is gonna be better than Saban, so it really doesn't matter.

I truly do not believe there is a coach who can do significantly better than Miles has (aside from Saban and maybe Meyer).



The gap between Saban and everyone else has made good coaches look worse than they are. And no one has felt that sting more than LSU fans, because Saban used to be LSU's coach. Plain and simple. And understandable."


..........bingo genro !!!



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