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re: So Chavis was on the phone with Sumlin the morning of the bowl game

Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by tigerborderjumper
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:14 pm to
So Chavis DID know he was leaving and coached a sheet game anyway. That probably explains a lot. He has lost what respect I ever had him. Now the question comes to mind. Did Aleva and/or Miles have any info about it and let him coach? That would be typical. Frick all three if that is the case.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8972 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:14 pm to
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What has Miles not done that he is paid to do?


In the past 3 years, he has not won the SEC west, he has not won an SEC championship and he has not won a National Championship. As one of the top paid HC in the country those are the implied duties of his job!
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 5:15 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:14 pm to
How you don't see the hypocrisy is mind boggling.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8972 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:16 pm to
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So Chavis DID know he was leaving and coached a sheet game anyway. That probably explains a lot. He has lost what respect I ever had him. Now the question comes to mind. Did Aleva and/or Miles have any info about it and let him coach? That would be typical. Frick all three if that is the case.


Upvote by me, I couldn't agree more if Chavis knew he was leaving than frick him for coaching that game. If Miles knew he was leaving then frick him for allowing him to coach that game. And Alleva I can't stand so I don't even need a reason to say frick him, so frick him.

Posted by chicageaux_tiger
Suwanee, GA
Member since Sep 2005
528 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:17 pm to
The short chief has moved to 1C on my hate list. Behind 1A - Saban, 1B - Roy Williams, and just before 1D - Pete Carroll
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2304 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:18 pm to
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In the past 3 years, he has not won the SEC west, he has not won an SEC championship and he has not won a National Championship. As one of the top paid HC in the country those are the implied duties of his job!

You do realize that is a requirement of every coach in the country but without your self imposed 3 year limitation? You guys are fricking ridiculous 4 real.
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:19 pm to
Alleva and Miles knew for a month that A&M was offering Chief and all he wanted was the removal of the termination clause if Miles went to Michigan. Alleva would not budge. It was never about money. He would have signed as soon as he was given the 3 yr extension per him and his wife. He just did not want a repeat of what happened when Fulmer left and he was without a job. He did not want to be tied to Miles with the Michigan rumors nor could he depend on Alleva to take care of him. Nothing was covert, hidden, or vindictive. He wanted to stay at DBU and retire here. Miles matched A&M's offer after the bowl game, for one year but the termination clause reportedly remained. Miles had 4 weeks to take care of the clause before it became an issue of money, and respect. There is no way in the world that Miles did not know exactly what was going on the weeks leading up to and the day of the game. The players knew right before the game and that had to affect their morale. Everyone in the pressbox knew a deal was likely because Alleva would not address the termination clause. It was all over the internet, minute by minute. A&M was ready to go to 2mm if necessary to break his bond with LSU and did not have a formal deal until the following day.

Video Dec 23 BATON ROUGE – LSU coach Les Miles was vague about possibly losing defensive coordinator John Chavis to Texas A&M, which is interested in him as its new defensive coordinator, according to unconfirmed reports.
"I have no real feeling there," Miles said after practice Monday night. "I'm really going to speak to all my coaches. I think they have a want to be here and have an enjoyment of LSU. I think they recognize the advantages that we have as a football program and team. I think that they've enjoyed it. But again, they're a very talented group of men. They have opportunities."


“It was an honor being coached by such a magnificent coordinator. He put every player on the field in the best position to be successful.” Danielle Hunter

Chief will always be an icon at LSU, a respected recruiter, and innovator. He recruited right up to the day of the game. His DBU/NFLU reputation for sending players to the league and top-ranked defenses drew in top recruits. He was the lead on Phillips, Martin, Amadi and Dylan Jackson, all Vol targets. They were all LSU leans. He was in Tennessee for visits with them and was at the State Championships when Phillips and Jackson played. As soon as it was known that LSU lost him, some recruiting fallout began. A broken offense suggests the last thing LSU needed was to lose Chief and reward Cameron. Chief was ignored and his extension with a 6 month termination clause was not the security he needed or deserved. Good luck Chief. We know how much you love LSU.

Over the last 4 SEC games, Ole Miss, Bama, Ark, and A&M, he fielded the top scoring D in the SEC and 4th in the nation. The offense was ranked last in the SEC and 125th in the nation. We went 2-2. The fumble recovery on the ALA 6 yd line at 10-10 with 1:13 in the 4th gave us the chance to win but the offense could not score. The D came up huge to keep us in the Ole Miss and Bama games. He is missed.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8972 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:19 pm to
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Yall say he's the head coach when anything negative happens, but yall seldom give him credit for everything he's done well.


bullshite, he is the HC when things goes right he gets the credit when things don't he gets the blame pretty cut and dry. That is why he gets paid $4.5mil.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83649 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:20 pm to
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The short chief has moved to 1C on my hate list. Behind 1A - Saban,


Why is Saban ahead??? Saban didn't leave LSU to coach at a competitor. He left LSU to pursue the NFL. He then failed and wanted to go back to college. What did you want him to do, go to LSU and say "Fire Miles and rehire me"?

LSU fans hate for Saban is comical and your ranking goes to display it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:20 pm to
Of course you think it's bullshite. You're proving my point btw.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71172 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:22 pm to
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By the morning of the game all of the preparation is done, players are ready to go, coaches are ready to go.


not when players read on twitter the morning of the game that their coach is leaving the following day
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:22 pm to
Did you see the LSU defense in that bowl game? They played like they had a DC who didn't give a shatl.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:23 pm to
Totally agree about Aleva
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61847 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:25 pm to
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Is it against the rules for LSU to get first down? I heard that leads to more plays and TOP.



LSU had 17 first downs compared to NDs 23. LSU had 2 1 play drives.
Posted by DC4LSU
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2373 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:26 pm to
Obviously the rumors of his huge integrity was greatly exaggerated
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8972 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:26 pm to
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You do realize that is a requirement of every coach in the country but without your self imposed 3 year limitation? You guys are fricking ridiculous 4 real.


No not ridiculous, but trying to explain something to some of you that have absolutely no idea how a successful business is run is next to impossible.

The man is paid, prior to the bump ups this past season during the season or at the end of the season, in the top 10 in the country. He is paid in the top 3% of all college coaches when you get paid in that stratosphere there is more expected of you because you are getting paid more. It is plain business 101, can you not understand that?

The self imposed 3 year limitation is not there but you have to look at the numbers over the past 3 years and they are going steadily down in the SEC which is the first criteria - 6-2, 5-3 & 4-4. I think most 9th graders would agree that is a downward trend. If that trend does not reverse itself next year, and I mean next year not the year after, than something is wrong and someone has to go. I would say fire Cameron but everyone knows the offense is totally on Miles!!!!
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61847 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:29 pm to
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ND scored 21 in the first half, and had 10 (FG and late TD) to go with four punts in the second half.



That late TD was in the 3rd quarter. It wasn't late.

And the FG was on a 14 play drive to end the game.

In the end it was 5 scoring drives out of 9 drives total.

It was a miserable performance against a team that wasn't a great offensive team. Something caused it. If you want to make the case that it was something other than Chavis, fine. But, you seem to keep making the case that it wasn't the defense. That's absurd.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88578 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:30 pm to
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I would say fire Cameron but everyone knows the offense is totally on Miles!!!!


You're doing it again.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85527 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:40 pm to
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Our offense missed out on converting drives into touchdowns to put it away.


Well i dont think it was our offense, it was the refs that failed to realize we converted a TD.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85527 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:43 pm to
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LSU had 17 first downs compared to NDs 23. LSU had 2 1 play drives.


NDS first drive of the game was 8 fricking minutes. LSU didnt even get a chance to get a first down until 8 minutes in the game. Im sorry, but the defense shat the bed.
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