re: Since 2007: LSU (2 SEC WC, 2 SECC, 1 NC), Bama (5 SEC WC, 3 SECC, 3 NC)

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Saban facing a coach using the same game plan that was used in the previous meeting was lucky too.

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We executed a game plan that worked for 9-6. To be honest, there weren't many other ways a team was going to beat the 2011 Alabama team once, but asking to beat them twice? Eh, not happening

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I'd like to see Auburn's stats during that same time period. Too lazy to look up.

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Auburn in the same time period (exactly the same number of division championships, conference championships, NCs and NC appearances as LSU):

2 SECWC (2010, 2013)
2 SECC (2010, 2013)
1 NC (2010)

Here are the wikipedia links if you like to dig more:

LSU conference championships

Alabama conference championships

Auburn conference championships

When did I say Nick Saban wasn't lucky?

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Or getting to play the #3 team in the polls because the BCS loved Oklahoma for some reason.

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So lets not belittle our own fricking championship, that our fricking team won, to make a point about our coach.

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Eta damn it someone beat me to it

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Les miles isn't on trial here. There is no need to protect him.

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What?

The frick he isn't

Have you ever read this board?

That dude was on trial with a double digit lead in the national championship against Ohio state.

Les miles is always on trial on this board

my point is unless you are undefeated you are lucky, but people only use the 2007 season to belittle Miles.

I don't belittle either of our championships i just point out that Saban's is held on high, and miles gets dragged through the mud whenever someone wants to trash miles.

all i know is both year, they put a team in front of us in the championship game and we won. NO one else did.

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I don't belittle either of our championships

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You already did. In this thread.

I guess pumping gets confusing sometimes

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Your sentence follows no train of thought nor is it coherent.

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GeorgeReymond please read ALL statements before you open your piehole...
Les would have maybe 3 NC if the moron could get a QB who could make heads or tail of that stupid offense he runs. Or maybe just adjust that train wreck of a offense... Geeezzz

understand GeorgeReymond ?? If not just go to bed.

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it is too bad that much of his tenure at LSU has coincided with one of the greatest of all runs in college football history by Bama under quite possibly the GOAT college coach in Saban

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It's no coincidence that the two winningest coaches in LSU history have been absolutely dominated by their counterparts at Alabama. That's the way it has always been and will always be until there is a change in attitude at one of the schools.

If a school in Alabama's conference or division has a better coach and program than Alabama, they fire the coach they have and hire a new one. If he doesn't get them back on top, they fire him and hire another one. They might go through four or five coaches in a row until they find the one who gets them on top, but when they do, then by God they are back on top.

There was not a thing in the world wrong with Mike Shula as a head coach. He was a solid coach in all respects and led them to surprising success considering the crippling sanctions they were under when he was there. But he wasn't the best in the SEC or even the SEC West. And at Alabama, that is simply unacceptable, so he had to go. It wasn't a matter of whether he deserved it or whether he was a good guy or whether there were legitimate excuses for why they weren't the best. It's very simple there. Alabama is the best, or you get fired. Lather, rinse, repeat until Alabama is the best.

Over the last seven years, LSU is 69-22 overall with one SEC West and overall title, one (losing) appearance in the national championship game, eliminated (either literally or virtually) from the SEC west race with at least two games left to play six out of the seven years, finished outside the top 10 five times in the seven years, went to a BCS-level or equivalent bowl just once in the seven years, have a 2-6 record against our main division rival and only a 8-6 record against the two worst programs in the division over that period. I guarantee if anyone coaching at Alabama has that exact same performance over the next seven years, he will be in trouble. Even Nick Saban, with more history than Les Miles and a hell of a lot more laurels to rest on, would be in trouble if the next seven years for Alabama are exactly the same as the last seven years have been for LSU. Yet Miles is essentially untouchable.

It's a fundamental difference in the programs and the mentality in each. It's why they are Alabama, and we are LSU.

You just described why I am happier to be an lsu fan and alum. That entire inferiority complex makes being a Bama fan sound awful and miserable. Thanks for putting things in perspective of why Bama fans and some chicken little lsu fans are truly awful.

I figured it was close, but I didn't think it wold be the exact same.

I'm thinking that no other team from the west comes close to us and the Bama teams.

Georgia would, in my mind, be the only dominant power in east during this time period and Florida having a two year dominant period as well and having the only national championship from the East, but Georgia having more ten win seasons, division 'ships and SEC ships.