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re: Simplified Offense
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:13 pm to jackson123
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:13 pm to jackson123
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I don't care who it is. Heck line Patrick Peterson up there (kidding). Just put someone up there who can move the offense. It doesn't have to be a traditional passer if we don't have one who can get the job done. Randle, Ware, Shep all played QB in high school. With our defense we just need drives to keep them fresh.
So your answer to the QB problem is to just run the Wildcat all game?
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:15 pm to jackson123
quote:What is the alternative?
The reality: Jefferson needs a CAREER game to get anywhere close to that. The same people (that kept saying the spring game doesn't matter b.s.), please look at the Vandy game. And whadya know, the same type of performance. I love how people can excuse it and pretend that it won't happen again. And guess what, Jefferson will have another game like that. You can count on that. He's just not that good.
A QB who has had FIVE games that were as bad or WORSE than Jefferson's absolute worst game?
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:16 pm to just me
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A QB who has had FIVE games that were as bad or WORSE than Jefferson's absolute worst game?
hyperbole
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:16 pm to moneyg
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LSU hasn't used that many formations this year. I don't know what you've been watching.
Uhh yeah we have. Formations and personnel groupings out the wazoo...
Off the top of my head we've run:
Shotgun, 3 wide, 1 Tight, Singleback
Shotgun, 4 wide, Single back
Shotgun, 3 wide, 2 backs
IForm
Ace
Ace 3 wide
And about a bajillion different variations of these.
We've rotated in 2 different QBs (Shep has taken a few QB snaps on designed runs), 6 different RBs (Ridley, Ford, Murph, Blue, Ware, Stampley)... etc. etc. etc.
Our constantly changing personnel groups are wild.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:18 pm to jackson123
quote:Except that Jefferson did move the offense in the MSU game.
Just put someone up there who can move the offense.
Jefferson moved the team into scoring position on five out of six drives including two drives of 50+ yards.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:19 pm to OBUDan
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Right, so would you not agree the stats from this weekend unfairly skewed the good game he played?
If you think that is a good game, you must like accepting the fact that Bama and UF will continue to own us.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:19 pm to moneyg
quote:Fact.
hyperbole
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:21 pm to jackson123
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If you think that is a good game, you must like accepting the fact that Bama and UF will continue to own us.
You still haven't presented an answer to the problem. Just a bunch of bitching.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:21 pm to Flamefighter
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This is something that has been bothering since I read it. Why should LSU/Miles have to simplify the offense for QB's that should know the system by now? This isn't highschool where you have to play the hand thats dealt. There is no excuse for a 3 year starter to still be struggling running the offense and game plan. Blame it on coaching or players not being smart enough to learn and execute the system after 3 years.
Hence, what do you blame it on, the coaches or the players?
If JJ isn’t intelligent enough to understand Crowton’s complicated offense, then why isn’t JL the starter? I mean if JL understood and executed Crowton’s incredibly sophisticated offense better than JJ, reason says that JL would be the starter today and not JJ, but that is not the case, unless you believe the coaches have some sort of conspiracy to keep JL off the field.
The fact of the matter is none of Crowton’s quarterbacks, not in Chicago, not at BYU, not at Oregon, and now not at LSU were able to master Crowton’s incredibly sophisticated offense, and if an offense is so incredibly sophisticated that it can’t be mastered by ordinary people in the prime of life, then it isn’t worth a shite, which is why Crowton has a long track record of failure at all of the aforementioned places he has been including now at LSU.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:22 pm to Dead Fish
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Dead Fish
frick, I'm out.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:25 pm to MightyYat
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Dead Fish
frick, I'm out.
The voice of ignorance has entered the thread.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:25 pm to MightyYat
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So your answer to the QB problem is to just run the Wildcat all game?
You really don't think Shep the #1 QB out of Texas can throw the ball for less than 10 yards a completion? Come on now.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:27 pm to MightyYat
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You still haven't presented an answer to the problem. Just a bunch of bitching.
Bench him.
You want a solution, here you go.
Play any of the following:
#1 Lee
#2 Shep
#3 Ware
#4 Bailey
#5 McCartney
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:29 pm to Flamefighter
quote:My problem with that is the defense will have little trouble recognizing what is play is being called giving the play less chance of being successful..
Simplified Offense
I like JJ and I never pull against him or any LSU player.
My concern is also he looks confused at times and simplifying the offense isnt the answer, just not sure what is.
One of my other knocks on JJ is his handoff are too far in the backfield and too deliberate. Its like he shows the defense the ball before handing it off...I'm I the only one that notices that?
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:30 pm to just me
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Except that Jefferson did move the offense in the MSU game.
Jefferson moved the team into scoring position on five out of six drives including two drives of 50+ yards.
We got the ball at midfield or better half the time!! GEEZ
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:30 pm to jackson123
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You really don't think Shep the #1 QB out of Texas can throw the ball for less than 10 yards a completion? Come on now.
Did you see any of the throws he made in practice when he first got here? He couldn't throw anything but ducks. He has small hands and the slick footballs used in college aren't the same soft leather ones they use in high school. He struggled with just about every throw.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:31 pm to Cadello
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One of my other knocks on JJ is his handoff are too far in the backfield and too deliberate. Its like he shows the defense the ball before handing it off...I'm I the only one that notices that?
Brett Favre & Peyton Manning do this shite all the time.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:32 pm to jackson123
We scored on 7 out of 9 drives: FACT
LSU had no 3 and outs: FACT
He played like crap against Vandy, but JJ did everything he was asked to do in the MSU game. He does not design or create his own plays. He took what the OC gave him and did it effectively. Bottom line end of discussion!!!
LSU had no 3 and outs: FACT
He played like crap against Vandy, but JJ did everything he was asked to do in the MSU game. He does not design or create his own plays. He took what the OC gave him and did it effectively. Bottom line end of discussion!!!
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:33 pm to MightyYat
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Brett Favre & Peyton Manning do this shite all the time
And that's the level Jefferson is getting close to..
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:37 pm to cigtyme
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He took what the OC gave him and did it effectively. Bottom line end of discussion!!!
So when he's bad again (which will be soon)I'll be looking to you for some great insight.
I feel like the same people who support JJ, are the same ones who supported Randall and Booty. During that same time, you had Rohan Davey (who wasn't a good practice player ha!) and a raw JaMarcus Russell who needed snaps. The same idiots would do this with Randall. "He did what he was supposed to do." All the while knowing, that big games had to be won on the back of the Joseph Addai's of the world because our QB was awful.
This post was edited on 9/21/10 at 12:40 pm
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