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re: SI has an article about why their will never be a play off
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:59 pm to ForeLSU
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:59 pm to ForeLSU
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there was really no point to having anything besides Bama vs. TX
I think that's really a point most people miss. Look March madness is great. The first weekend. After that is a bore. When it's clear who the top two teams are (like last yr, UF- Okie matchup etc) a playoff would discredit the regular season. JMO
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Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:09 pm to Chicken
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hopefully, any playoff system rewards the higher seeds with home field advantage in the first round...that would solve your issue...
This happens in the NFL too... and teams rest players once they have home field sewn up. There's no way around it... A playoff would kill the rivalry games at the end of the season.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:16 pm to The Sundance Kid
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A playoff would kill the rivalry games at the end of the season.
This is one of the worst anti playoff arguments around. There is really no rational basis to think this is true. SOME teams in the NFL do it, but then playing the Jets or Panthers is not the same as Ohio State playing Michigan.
College basketball teams do not rest players late in the season or in conference tourneys even though most know if they will be in the NCAA.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:16 pm to The Sundance Kid
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A playoff would kill the rivalry games at the end of the season.
While I agree that the possibility is there, I don't see that happening very often. Rivalry games are still big no matter what bowl/playoff spot is available. Just watch the Oregon/Oregon St. game at the end of the year. And on top of that, how often does a team really clinch division/conference title and what would be a good playoff/home field advantage spot before the final two weeks of the season? That only happens in conferences like Big 10 and Pac 10 with no conference CG. Pac 10 is resolving that with added teams.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:19 pm to purpleturtle50
The money aspect is such bullshite. Do they not think that 3 weekends of playoff games would generate a ridiculous amount of money? And a small playoff system (8 teams or so) would NOT take away from the regular season. 1 loss could easily drop you out of the top 8.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
i hate the "it'll devalue the regular season" argument. so right now, only 2 teams have hopes of playing for the national championship when the regukar season ends, while if there is a playoff, 8 or 16 teams would have a shot at a national championship. how does this devalue the regular season, if anything it makes the regular season, especially the last few weeks, even more exciting because more teams would be fighting for the chance to win it all.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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College basketball teams do not rest players late in the season or in conference tourneys even though most know if they will be in the NCAA.
First off - this isn't basketball. Football is a much more physically demanding game than basketball. Secondly, basketball teams are always competing to get the top overall seed in the NCAA tourney, so there's more incentive to continue to play at a high level.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:23 pm to The Sundance Kid
The only way to determine a true National Champion is on the field.
Playoffs!
Playoffs!
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:25 pm to rutiger
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only 2 teams have hopes of playing for the national championship when the regukar season ends
correct. Have those two teams been decided? Do other teams currently have a chance to move into one of the two spots? yes
your argument has been refuted
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:25 pm to The Sundance Kid
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First off - this isn't basketball. Football is a much more physically demanding game than basketball.
no one disputes, but how often do you see season ending injuries? Why would a guy be more likely to get hurt in a "meaningless" game? There is no way Ohio State benches players vs Michigan if there was a playoff. Sorry. I'm not for a playoff over 4 games, but this argument is weak, weak weak.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:25 pm to purpleturtle50
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...the only way it will happen is if the US Justice Departments gets involved for Anti-trust violations.
Hell no! Do we really want the government to screw up college football as badly as it's screwed up AMTRAK, Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae, the USPS and Dept of Education?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:27 pm to The Sundance Kid
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Secondly, basketball teams are always competing to get the top overall seed in the NCAA tourney, so there's more incentive to continue to play at a high level.
And you don't think they would do this for a College football playoff?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:27 pm to rutiger
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while if there is a playoff, 8 or 16 teams would have a shot at a national championship. how does this devalue the regular season, if anything it makes the regular season, especially the last few weeks, even more exciting because more teams would be fighting for the chance to win it all.
when has a team dropped from 1 or 2 down to 17 or even 9? The teams at the top would have it sewn up, no excitment there. You'd have teams with 2 or 3 loses fighting for the last few spots.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:41 pm to H-Town Tiger
why thier?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You'd have teams with 2 or 3 loses fighting for the last few spots.
what are they fighting for now, the right to play in some mid-teir bowl?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:47 pm to rutiger
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what are they fighting for now, the right to play in some mid-teir bowl?
yes, that's what happens when you lose multiple games. If you can lose 3 and still play for the NC then the regular season doesn't mean as much.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:53 pm to rutiger
There is no logical argument against a playoff.
The "diminish the regular season" argument is pure speculation. Nobody truly knows if it would, but I find it hard to believe that Ohio St. would just go lay down against Michigan, or Auburn would simply forfeit to Bama. Fans are gonna watch regardless, so that's not even up for discussion.
The money aspect is also pure speculation. They could generate an insane amount of revenue with 3 weekend of playoff games, while also keeping the other bowls intact.
What we do in fact know is that every year there are discussions about if the 2 best teams played in the Championship game. If a certain team didn't get a fair shot, or what would happen if "so and so" played in the game instead of "so and so". This we know for a FACT! and it is bullshite that they do nothing about it.
The "diminish the regular season" argument is pure speculation. Nobody truly knows if it would, but I find it hard to believe that Ohio St. would just go lay down against Michigan, or Auburn would simply forfeit to Bama. Fans are gonna watch regardless, so that's not even up for discussion.
The money aspect is also pure speculation. They could generate an insane amount of revenue with 3 weekend of playoff games, while also keeping the other bowls intact.
What we do in fact know is that every year there are discussions about if the 2 best teams played in the Championship game. If a certain team didn't get a fair shot, or what would happen if "so and so" played in the game instead of "so and so". This we know for a FACT! and it is bullshite that they do nothing about it.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If you can lose 3 and still play for the NC then the regular season doesn't mean as much.
you said a 2 or 3 loss team, so a 2 loss bama couldnt compete for a nc, or deserve to? hell, lsu won a nc a few years ago with 2 losses.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 3:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I will read through the thread before posting next time. Sorry ...
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 11/15/10 at 3:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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yes how horrendous that the people in charge of finances for non profit state subsidised institutions should rejection something that makes more money to help pay for non revenue generating sports because some fans and sports writers don't like the fact that 1 sport doesn't have the same type of tournament that other sports do to determine a champion.
Probably a good point in there somewhere but, please, some form of punctuation would be nice. Not being a grammer snob; it would simply make it intelligible.
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