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re: Should Tharold Simon Start over T-Rex on the Outside?
Posted on 4/12/11 at 5:22 pm to OBUDan
Posted on 4/12/11 at 5:22 pm to OBUDan
probably
Let TM play nickel where he thrived.
He would have to be a lot better than Simon in coverage to warrant being there at only 5'9
Let TM play nickel where he thrived.
He would have to be a lot better than Simon in coverage to warrant being there at only 5'9
This post was edited on 4/12/11 at 5:26 pm
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 5:25 pm to TigerFan55555
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Mathieu is too valuable in the nickel
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:00 pm to bencoleman
Damn I'm getting tired of saying this. Why do people think that TM can't start on the outside if he's going to play at the nickel slot? TM will be at the nickel when we are in nickel and dime packages, but that does not prevent him from starting at one CB spot.
If you think Simon should start at one CB over Mathieu, fine. But don't say Mathieu is too valuable at nickel as your argument. He can start at one CB and still play the nickel in those situations
If you think Simon should start at one CB over Mathieu, fine. But don't say Mathieu is too valuable at nickel as your argument. He can start at one CB and still play the nickel in those situations
This post was edited on 4/12/11 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:01 pm to jackson123
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Yes. Let little ball of hate run around and make plays.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:06 pm to Bonjourno
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If you think Simon should start at one CB over Mathieu, fine. But don't say Mathieu is too valuable at nickel as your argument
I think it's both. I think Simon is a better corner and Mathieu is very good at nickel.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:08 pm to Bonjourno
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Damn I'm getting tired of saying this. Why do people think that TM can't start on the outside if he's going to play at the nickel slot? TM will be at the nickel when we are in nickel and dime packages, but that does not prevent him from starting at one CB spot. If you think Simon should start at one CB over Mathieu, fine. But don't say Mathieu is too valuable at nickel as your argument. He can start at one CB and still play the nickel in those situations
and i'm pretty sure if tharold was so much better than tyrann on the outside cooper and chavis would have him starting... it's that simple
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:36 pm to LSUknight2010
What % of time does Chavis run nickel package? SeeIRS high last year probably more this coming year!
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:39 pm to The Boat
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Joe Adams made him look a fool last season.
Having man responsibilities in the slot with no safety help against Adams is a pretty tough assignment for any cornerback.
That was an aggressive defensive call that Arkansas scouted perfectly.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 7:41 pm to TLG
Last year we d it so much based on the personnel. Mathieu was making plays and Francois was not. The year before we used it much less and the three LBs all had a ton of tackles.
I think we will see a lot of it this year because of our lack of experience and playmaking at LB outside of Baker
I think we will see a lot of it this year because of our lack of experience and playmaking at LB outside of Baker
This post was edited on 4/12/11 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:12 pm to Jcorye1
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Asante is a horrible coverage corner though
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:53 pm to OBUDan
Ronnie Vincent FTW.................
Thanks, Carter or other KLSU employees for your shameless self promotion
Thanks, Carter or other KLSU employees for your shameless self promotion
Posted on 4/13/11 at 12:08 am to Bonjourno
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Damn I'm getting tired of saying this. Why do people think that TM can't start on the outside if he's going to play at the nickel slot? TM will be at the nickel when we are in nickel and dime packages, but that does not prevent him from starting at one CB spot.
Exactly it is quite annoying, I don't think people get what the argument is...
It is certain and I think we all know that Mathieu is going to be the nickel when we have 5 or more DB's on the field.
The argument is which should start at corner when we are not in nickel or dime, Simon or Mathieu?
I don't think it really matters who starts there to be honest, because the majority of the time we will be in a scheme where Mathieu is able to play that nickel spot and if not, the two will equally be sharing time on the outside...
As we have seen in the past, Cooper likes to rotate the guys on and off the field a lot to keep them fresh.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 12:17 am to OBUDan
TM7 = Strong Saftey
TS24 = CB
just an opinion
TS24 = CB
just an opinion
This post was edited on 4/13/11 at 12:24 am
Posted on 4/13/11 at 12:49 am to ehidal1
If he doesn't at first he will be before end of season. No offense to tyrann but simon being bigger can physically pass him up. Besides we prob playing 5dbs most of the time anyway. Simon can defend.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 6:06 am to dgnx6
I took a picture with t-rex the other day at the spring game with all his gear on helmet and all and i towered over him and looked huge next to him. I'm 6'2 220 and he looked so tiny next to me.. It amazes me how good he is at his size.. But i know hes a athlete but i would rather see simon at the other corner and keep t-rex at dime and nickle packages because of his height..
Posted on 4/13/11 at 6:28 am to OBUDan
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The coaches say Mathieu will start at cornerback, but on second and third down will move in the box in passing situations. But why even have him play corner?
because he already plays corner and was called the top cover CB in his class in the country. his cover skills are what got the buzz about him going on the camp circuit. maybe, just maybe, he can cover?
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Most of Mathieu’s contributions were made in the box on Nickel & “Mustang” package blitzes last season. So why force him to learn a new position when he doesn’t have to?
he's not being forced to do anything, he was already in the 2 deep at CB last yr. I think he knows the position.
I could see not wanting to wear the little guy out, esp. if he's gonna be returning punts, but I think ppl might be selling his cover skills a bit short (no pun intended)
anyway, they'll probably just rotate the 2 when we're in our base look, so no big deal.
Posted on 4/13/11 at 6:37 am to GFunk
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Mathieu is too valuable in the nickel. He'll play at Corner only if there's an injury.
This
LBOH needs to be making plays on the ball, not on an island. He has too much of a natural instinct to create turnovers to have him as a dedicated #2 corner.
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