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re: Should a 5th Year Senior QB Be Handled With Kid Gloves

Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:12 pm to
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It's a different world


and look where its going...need to get back to basics to move in the right direction....but thats for a different board...
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31839 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:13 pm to
Find a single post I made wishing for anything other than complete justice for all involved. I don't remember seeing that the misdemeanor charges were dismissed or he and the forgotten JJ were aquitted and I will quickly offer my apology for having missed that. I said many times through September that I hoped nothing bad would happen and that if they were innocent they were allowed to return. I said then, as I did in 2010 that I didn't think he was a good QB. The team seemed to be performing at a higher level with JL taking the majority of the snaps. Would we have beaten the Gumps without JJ? We will never know. He helped stretch the field but for him to state that he had put the team on his back representa part of my thinking about why he's not a very good QB. I certainly didn't hear JL say that after the UF game last year, and I've never heard Drew Brees or Tom Brady say that either. He has a lot of "me" and "I" in him.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:14 pm to
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BeeFense5


just by going by your picture, do you really think that JJ pulls for Lee?...you think Lee pulls for JJ?...
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:21 pm to
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Has he definitively? JJ has a higher efficiency rating than Lee in the small sample size that we have seen of JJ's play.


Well, yeah, when JJ gets the lion's share of snaps in the WKU game or easy drives. I suppose you think JJ could maintain that over the course of many games.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:23 pm to

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I certainly didn't hear JL say that after the UF game last year, and I've never heard Drew Brees or Tom Brady say that either. He has a lot of "me" and "I" in him


this is what I cant stand about him...and its about ninety nine percent of why i dont think he should be playing...if he played TE and said these things it probabley wouldnt bother me so much, but a QB is suppose to be a general, someone to follow, I know damn well, all those guys in the locker room dont follow him, I've heard that directly from a few of their mouths...but they'll never say it to the media...Terrance Toliver came close last year and damn near got benched for it...
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:27 pm to
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this is what I cant stand about him...and its about ninety nine percent of why i dont think he should be playing


At least this is honest...it's not about play, it's some personal issue with you. Fine...I wish more "fans" would own that point of view.

BTW, this issue you have regarding his post game interview where he said something about putting the team on his back...wasn't that seconds after complementing JL's performance in the game? Let me guess...that wasn't genuine, right?
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:34 pm to
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it's not about play


hold on there buddy, i was being a little phosecious with the ninety nine percent thing...yes his play has A LOT to do with it...his attitude is what makes it waaaaaay worse...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

it's not about play


hold on there buddy, i was being a little phosecious with the ninety nine percent thing...yes his play has A LOT to do with it...his attitude is what makes it waaaaaay worse...
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:36 pm to
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this is what I cant stand about him...and its about ninety nine percent of why i dont think he should be playing...

And .... the truth will set you free.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31839 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:39 pm to
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yes his play has A LOT to do with it...his attitude is what makes it waaaaaay worse...


Remember the game last year, during the stretch that he was <100 yards with zippo touchdowns when he said he thought he played well after going like 4-10? I thought in 2009 that the game was too fast for him, but really got down on him in 2010 when he was bad and cocky.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:40 pm to
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And .... the truth will set you free.


i should have said 50%...lol
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:42 pm to
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Remember the game last year, during the stretch that he was <100 yards with zippo touchdowns when he said he thought he played well after going like 4-10? I thought in 2009 that the game was too fast for him, but really got down on him in 2010 when he was bad and cocky.


couldnt agree more....
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37168 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:44 pm to
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Find a single post I made wishing for anything other than complete justice for all involve
I don't need to find that post. All I need to know is that little bitch arse post you posted in this thread.

Misdemeanor charges dismissed?

quote:

the forgotten JJ
no charges actually. Wow, you really don't know what the frick you are talking about.

Fact is, your posts show how much of a little bitch you were being in this thread. Content and tone.

Get the frick over what the kid says, and get the frick over the fact that you are not the head coach of LSU. JJ was the starter heading into the season. Some shite went down and JL stepped up. He did a hell of a job. JJ came in a did a hell of a job as well.

Real fans don't give a frick who starts.

You, on the other hand, are butt hurt. It really hurts you personally when Lee doesn't start. Get the frick over it.

OH, and from earlier, frick YOU. You weren't man enough to say you were wrong by saying I couldn't be objective because of my 'handle.' frick YOU.

You conveniently ignore every argument that lies directly in the face of yours, and instead, continue to spout off your undying devotion to JLee.

What a shitty LSU fan.

eta: GO frick YOURSELF

in case you didn't see my Capitalization, dick.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 10:51 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:46 pm to
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hold on there buddy, i was being a little phosecious with the ninety nine percent thing...yes his play has A LOT to do with it


Let's leave out yours and others man crush on 12 for a moment...why does everyone continually look to his play in the first 2/3rds of 2010 to deride his PT in 2011? So far in 2011, however you want to look at it, he's played well.

This tact would be no different than someone talking about Lee's 2008 and 2009 performances and then suggesting it's just the way he plays without taking an honest look at the way he's ACTUALLY playing in 2011. It's just intellectually lazy, and bordering on being downright dishonest.

On a separate note...why does anyone care so long as LSU is playing well, and they are? I surely don't! I'm not either of the QB's moms, or girlfriends, or hoping to be their agent, or have them in some fantasy league...I don't care any more about the playing time each are getting in terms of it's "fairness" than I do about the fairness of PT in the RB corps. Why are you guys SOOOOOOO invested in fighting this fight so personally? You guys sound like a bunch of fricking soccer moms who are ranting on Facebook because sweet little Bryce isn't getting to play enough.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37168 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:47 pm to
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Has he definitively? JJ has a higher efficiency rating than Lee in the small sample size that we have seen of JJ's play.



Well, yeah, when JJ gets the lion's share of snaps in the WKU game or easy drives. I suppose you think JJ could maintain that over the course of many games.

please give me a break down of JL vs. top ranked teams, i.e. Oregon and Bama.

I feel you'll be disappointed.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86401 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:49 pm to
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What a shitty LSU fan.
Yes, yes you are. Stupid as frick too.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37168 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:52 pm to
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What a shitty LSU fan.

Yes, yes you are. Stupid as frick too.
oh yeah, explain.
read our entire interaction in this thread and try and stand by your statement.

frick you too.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42180 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:59 pm to
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just by going by your picture, do you really think that JJ pulls for Lee?...you think Lee pulls for JJ?...


Yes, I haven't seen anything or have heard anything that would be contrary.

Of course they both want to play. It is human nature. But I don't think they cheer against each other.

This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 11:02 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42180 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:00 pm to
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On a separate note...why does anyone care so long as LSU is playing well, and they are? I surely don't! I'm not either of the QB's moms, or girlfriends, or hoping to be their agent, or have them in some fantasy league...I don't care any more about the playing time each are getting in terms of it's "fairness" than I do about the fairness of PT in the RB corps. Why are you guys SOOOOOOO invested in fighting this fight so personally? You guys sound like a bunch of fricking soccer moms who are ranting on Facebook because sweet little Bryce isn't getting to play enough.


Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/15/11 at 11:01 pm to
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why does everyone continually look to his play in the first 2/3rds of 2010 to deride his PT in 2011?


2/3rd's is a majority, he has played about a game and a half total this year....

quote:

man crush


tell me what JJ has done to EARN your trust as a player....if he has, you must be a trusting fool..

quote:

This tact would be no different than someone talking about Lee's 2008 and 2009 performances

quite a bit of growing up CAN be done in two years, and the fact that he didnt run away like a little girl and stuck it out only makes him look stronger and tougher...you think JJ would have stayed in the same circumstances??
quote:

why does anyone care so long as LSU is playing well

you think our offense looks well with JJ in?...was it better then the first 8 games with lee?
quote:

You guys sound like a bunch of fricking soccer moms
its actually the other way around there bud...
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