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re: Shoop vs Saban vs Patterson vs Venables vs chavis (massive stat post)

Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16513 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:43 pm to
Great work OP.

Only thing further (and not suggesting you do so) would be to expand the number of seasons to guard against the "one hit wonder" element.

Shoop would appear to be a great hire as would Bumpas.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:46 pm to
Youve done some very good work here and its very appreciated. In fact,I have new respect for Shoops because of it.
But, u cant just look at the stats and then find the one thing, like recruiting stars to prove your point. Strength of Schedule could turn these numbers a different way just as easy. This is a critical hire and Miles is looking at more than just a guys X&O stats or his recruiting success.

Altho this will open the door, its not what will get the guy hired. He will have to sell himself and his plan during the interview. Miles needs to take his time and interview as many credible candidates as possible, he has to get it right.
He will.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1091 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 4:33 pm to
Great work I am a numbers person and I like these sorts of comparisons. Of course, I have absolutely nothing to do with who gets hired.
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
974 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 5:11 pm to
I believe this is the best guy for us. He is a coach who will produce a fundamentally sound defense. There are many on staff that can recruit. Give me the guy that can coach and cope with Miles.
Posted by Jdixon
Member since Aug 2014
2936 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 5:47 pm to
Wow master you got a lot of free time. Really good stuff I like Shoop and think it would be a home run hire even without Bebe.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3275 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:14 pm to
Unfortunately, how can you possibly compare them when they play completely different strength of schedules and types of offenses? Did their team control time of possession and limit defensive snaps?

Perhaps a more meaningful analysis would be to compare the defenses against the opposing offenses averages. Say, did he hold them to 100 yards below their average total, did they average only 3.2 yards per play against his defense while averaging 5 yards per play for the season against other power 5 teams, etc.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 6:17 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:17 pm to
Check out football outsiders efficiency rankings
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7093 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

MastrShake


why are you not a fan of Schiano?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 6:28 pm
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:08 pm to
Shoop's pass defense stats are pimp. Bring him to DBU.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:16 pm to
nm
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 6:28 pm
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
2020 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Shoop or Venables would be great hires. We wouldn't miss a beat on Defense if we got one of these guys.


Don't want him.
Posted by BillyJoeBayou
A trailer park in huoston
Member since Dec 2014
69 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:10 pm to
I don't own enugh wild turkey for me to digest all these dang numbers so you say shoop . ok I'm iallin in
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3275 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:43 pm to
Sorry you took offense. Wasn't my intention. Genuinely curious to see which coaches' defenses limited the opposing offenses the most compared to their average performance against other power 5 teams. Just don't want to do it myself.
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