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re: Shep isn't just a finesse guy
Posted on 4/30/10 at 4:51 pm to XbengalTiger
Posted on 4/30/10 at 4:51 pm to XbengalTiger
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don't have a fricking clue about the workings of a football team from a player and coaching standpoint.
I'll tell you this, you play the best at what they do.....the best runner with the ball in his hands should have it more than anyone else when trying to run it! You can slice it how you like or quote weight or age or whatever, he is the best we got and should have had the ball in his hands 20 times per game....whether it be running or passing or direct snaps. He's averaging 6 yds per carry and Scott can't get 2 per!!
frick you and your dumb as logic. It's so great we didn't get him hurt by NOT USING HIM. Are you fricking serious.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 4:56 pm
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 4:59 pm to the LSUSaint
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frick you and your dumb as logic. It's so great we didn't get him hurt by NOT USING HIM. Are you fricking serious.
Wasted a whole season of eligibility along the way
Posted on 4/30/10 at 6:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Anyone who thinks that kid only should have averaged 3.8 touches a game for the 109th ranked offense in the country is troubled in the head.
Now 20 touches every game, thats a bit much, but 3.8, should have just redshirted him.
Now 20 touches every game, thats a bit much, but 3.8, should have just redshirted him.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 7:45 pm to ItNeverRains
quote:
Anyone who thinks that kid only should have averaged 3.8 touches a game for the 109th ranked offense in the country is troubled in the head.
and the problem is, not a single person on this board has a clue what is really going on.
EVERYONE wanted him to play more. NOBODY liked the way he was used.
But well no matter how you slice it, someone with more information than you made a decision. And he had reasons for that decision.
But nevermind. He is just stupid and left him on the bench out of spite.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:01 pm to noonan
Noonan, I can relate to your frustration.
But the guys that made the decisions about Shep had an offense that finished 112th out of 119 schools. At a premier school with loads of skill players.
It's not unreasonable to say their coaching is dubious. Any time LSU (or Auburn, or UGA, or Cal, or anyone in the top tier of football) finishes lower than 100th in total offense, questions are in order.
I hope Miles and company turn things around this year, but last year was ugly and the coaches are fair game.
But the guys that made the decisions about Shep had an offense that finished 112th out of 119 schools. At a premier school with loads of skill players.
It's not unreasonable to say their coaching is dubious. Any time LSU (or Auburn, or UGA, or Cal, or anyone in the top tier of football) finishes lower than 100th in total offense, questions are in order.
I hope Miles and company turn things around this year, but last year was ugly and the coaches are fair game.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:14 pm to NorfolkVATiger
I agree with that. And I have said before on here Les has this year. If things don't improve then it's time for a change. imo. Whether that happens or not, well...
My main frustration is the constant negativity on this board. Like I said, you started this thread as a positive about Shep, and these dumb fricks turn it into a negative thread. I definitely come here less and less because of them.
My main frustration is the constant negativity on this board. Like I said, you started this thread as a positive about Shep, and these dumb fricks turn it into a negative thread. I definitely come here less and less because of them.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:19 pm to lsudat10
What I gather from that video is that he understands how to run. He is conscious of the first down markers and angles by defenders. I'm really really excited about him.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:20 pm to noonan
Don't forget Saban talked about "Catastrophe Syndrome" amongst the fans when he was coach at LSU.
If LSU fans suffered from Catastrophe syndrome when Saban was here - it pains me to say it, but he's probably the best active coach in college football - then that's just the way it is here.
If LSU fans suffered from Catastrophe syndrome when Saban was here - it pains me to say it, but he's probably the best active coach in college football - then that's just the way it is here.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:28 pm to NorfolkVATiger
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Don't forget Saban talked about "Catastrophe Syndrome" amongst the fans when he was coach at LSU.
yeah, i used to bring that up a lot. just to help some of these fans remember that life was not always good with saban.
it doesn't work.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:30 pm to noonan
I don't see where the problems are with your argument. Shep took some hard hits against teams like Vanderbilt. Chances are he would have been killed against Florida.
As has been said, everyone wanted him more involved. Everyone was angry that he wasn't. That doesn't mean that anger is necessarily justified. A coach doesn't keep his best player out of the game for no reason and there's a lot of shite that happens behind closed doors. I think this idea of having to share him between Miles, Crowton, Porter, and McCarthy has merit. I think the kid just had way too much thrown at him way too fast and wasn't really able to grasp what he was doing last year. When nobody on the team understands a players' role, least of all the player, it's going to be hard to get production from him.
Here's to hoping he gets his 10-15 touches from here on out.
As has been said, everyone wanted him more involved. Everyone was angry that he wasn't. That doesn't mean that anger is necessarily justified. A coach doesn't keep his best player out of the game for no reason and there's a lot of shite that happens behind closed doors. I think this idea of having to share him between Miles, Crowton, Porter, and McCarthy has merit. I think the kid just had way too much thrown at him way too fast and wasn't really able to grasp what he was doing last year. When nobody on the team understands a players' role, least of all the player, it's going to be hard to get production from him.
Here's to hoping he gets his 10-15 touches from here on out.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 8:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Wasted a whole season of eligibility along the way
better than wasting his career.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:39 pm to chilge1
How in the hell can anyone justify the way that Shep was used last year?
I'm not a fan of giving him the ball 20 times a game out of the I set, but what the hell? Two...maybe three QB sneaks a game is sufficient?
Everyone in the WORLD knew what was going to happen, my little sister even knew he was going to run a QB sneak.
Shoot...when they did call up something other than the simple sneak, it was a simple read play for the D.
Shep was one of underutilized talents in all of college football, if not the most underutilized.
There is NO excuse for not creating plays for the guy.
Furthermore, you can put that blame on Les Miles. He even stated, half way through the season, that Shep needed more carries and guess what...nothing.
Did we even see him in the bowl game?
If there is a problem, fix it...Les refuses to do so and that's a problem for the program.
Coaching can be very simple (especially with playmakers), put the ball in your playmaker's hands. Texas, Alabama, and Florida have no problems designing plays for their big play guys. Why can't LSU?
Simple - inept coaching staff.
And for you people defending Miles (the Miles apologist) = people satisfied with mediocrity...GTFO
I'm not a fan of giving him the ball 20 times a game out of the I set, but what the hell? Two...maybe three QB sneaks a game is sufficient?
Everyone in the WORLD knew what was going to happen, my little sister even knew he was going to run a QB sneak.
Shoot...when they did call up something other than the simple sneak, it was a simple read play for the D.
Shep was one of underutilized talents in all of college football, if not the most underutilized.
There is NO excuse for not creating plays for the guy.
Furthermore, you can put that blame on Les Miles. He even stated, half way through the season, that Shep needed more carries and guess what...nothing.
Did we even see him in the bowl game?
If there is a problem, fix it...Les refuses to do so and that's a problem for the program.
Coaching can be very simple (especially with playmakers), put the ball in your playmaker's hands. Texas, Alabama, and Florida have no problems designing plays for their big play guys. Why can't LSU?
Simple - inept coaching staff.
And for you people defending Miles (the Miles apologist) = people satisfied with mediocrity...GTFO
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:39 pm to chilge1
quote:f'n retarded
I don't see where the problems are with your argument. Shep took some hard hits against teams like Vanderbilt. Chances are he would have been killed against Florida.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:51 pm to stewie
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If there is a problem, fix it...Les refuses to do so and that's a problem for the program.
Did you watch the Spring Game? Clearly the issue wasn't that Miles didn't want him involved. My assumption, which is all anyone can offer, is that Shepard didn't understand his role in the offense, which created confusion, and therefore the only plays we ran with him were simple. ie. you take the ball and run between the tackles.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:51 pm to Books
There were a couple of times that Shep let guys get under him....the ball pops loose on this one against UGA (he was ruled down before the ball came out):
Reshad Jones tackle
I don't know if the staff had those concerns, but that's the type of play - there was at least one other, his first carry vs Vandy - that leads some fans to make those statements.
Reshad Jones tackle
I don't know if the staff had those concerns, but that's the type of play - there was at least one other, his first carry vs Vandy - that leads some fans to make those statements.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:51 pm to Books
quote:
f'n retarded
You think that watching him early in the year, he showed that he knew how to protect himself from hits like that?
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:54 pm to chilge1
you really arguing that Miles sat him bc he might get hurt? are you that dumb?
This post was edited on 5/1/10 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:56 pm to NorfolkVATiger
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.the ball pops loose on this one against UGA (he was ruled down before the ball came out)
and yet the refs spotted the ball where the "fumble" went out.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:57 pm to Books
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you really arguing that Miles sat him bc he might get hurt?
I'm arguing that because he doesn't know how to cushion blows, hits become more severe. I don't think it's a stretch to induce from there that harder hits are more likely to cause fumbles.
I haven't looked at it yet, but check the link posted above, it should probably indicate what I'm describing.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:58 pm to NorfolkVATiger
quote:the Vandy 'hit' is so blown out of proportion. He got flipped over the dude's back and fell off. There are dozens of hits worse than that every game. UGA was a shot no doubt, but one hit where he was not even shaken up is not a reason to sit a football player several games later--just flat out stupid to suggest it. Not aimed at you btw.
I don't know if the staff had those concerns, but that's the type of play - there was at least one other, his first carry vs Vandy - that leads some fans to make those statements.
This post was edited on 5/1/10 at 2:02 pm
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