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re: Shep isn't just a finesse guy

Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:41 pm to
The boy has talent, no doubt. The long run against Auburn was no big deal though. Auburn couldnt stop anything on defense last year.
He needs to gain some weight and muscle so he doesnt get body slammed so much next year.

Posted by XbengalTiger
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:20 pm to
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The reason I really am a Miles' basher is because he was too fricking stupid to give RS the ball 20 times a game at least.
And you are too fricking stupid to realize that no coach in the SEC would have run a true freshman that wieghed 178 lbs 20+ times a game. Hell, bama probally had the best freshman RB in the conference and he was physically ready to have 20 carries and he still only got maybe 5 or so a game. The more I read this board the more I realize most of the people that hate Miles don't have a fricking clue about the workings of a football team from a player and coaching standpoint.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:36 pm to
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Don't get your hopes up. He is too damn good. Miles will keep him on the bench




holy frick


just ignore people like that. they are 15 year olds that just try to stir things up and annoy people. they don't offer anything of value to a message board.
Posted by noonan
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:37 pm to
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The reason I really am a Miles' basher is because he was too fricking stupid to give RS the ball 20 times a game at least.


and this is why Miles bashers are idiots.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:40 pm to
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and this is why Miles bashers are idiots.




WHoever was responsible for RS being on the bench in key game is an idiot. There is no excuse for it. The most exciting athlete on the team, on the bench when your offense can't do shite.

I am not a Miles basher, but this is pure negligence.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:44 pm to
i wanted to see him more too. every fan did. but that doesn't change the fact that he had trouble holding on to the ball at the beginning. i can't blame Miles for not playing him in big situations. maybe he just wasn't ready yet.

if we do see more of him this year the Miles bashers will change their "Miles does not play the most talented" to "Miles wasted Shep last year".

they don't think things through.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:52 pm to
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What kind of a fricking moron keeps the ball away from talent like that? He was better than Scott, Williams, and Murphy and there is NO doubt.


Completley agree. Keeping Shepard off the field is probably one of the stupidest things Miles can do and its shite like that which makes me lose faith in his ability to lead LSU to a championship again. Shepard was obviously the best runner last year, and he got the ball 3 maybe 4 times per game. And still averaged 6 ypc even though we used him in the most predictable way we possibly could. I truly feel bad for him because his freshman season was wasted.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 2:58 pm
Posted by bearcat78
Southeast
Member since Mar 2010
351 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:54 pm to
RS is a very good athelete, but I can't get overwhelmed with high lights from the likes of AU,LaTech, LaLL,Vandy, and MSU. Post more videos of UF,PSU,O'MS, UA etc for a fair evaluation. I also feel that he will make a difference in 2010.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17745 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:56 pm to
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I realize most of the people that hate Miles don't have a fricking clue about the workings of a football team from a player and coaching standpoint.


So Shepard was properly utilized last year? I don't think we should give him 20+ carries, but I don't see a problem with giving him more responsibility in the offense, besides running him 4 times per game at the most and then forgetting he is on the team.
Posted by Books
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:58 pm to
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he had trouble holding on to the ball at the beginning
bullshite
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i can't blame Miles for not playing him in big situations.
how ab at all in the UF game when the offense was horrendous
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:59 pm to
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i wanted to see him more too. every fan did. but that doesn't change the fact that he had trouble holding on to the ball at the beginning. i can't blame Miles for not playing him in big situations. maybe he just wasn't ready yet.




Shep was the one threat LSU had to break one. Don't care what he couldn't do, the offense was so pathetic nothing he could have done would have hurt any more than the offense was already "hurt" He looked confused at times because they tried to shift him around in the backfield for God knows what reasons, everyone knew he was getting the ball. Line him up, get him the football. Nothing else worked.

Don't buy the fumble excuse. Didn't happen much, and held on better than Lafell could catch, and JJ could make decisions in the pocket.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 3:26 pm
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:02 pm to
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RS is a very good athelete, but I can't get overwhelmed with high lights from the likes of AU,LaTech, LaLL,Vandy, and MSU. Post more videos of UF,PSU,O'MS, UA etc for a fair evaluation. I also feel that he will make a difference in 2010.


He didn't play against PSU or UF. I'm assuming you knew that...it's one of the knocks on the coaching staff.

The last four plays are from the Bama game. He did a good job of making something out of nothing on the first three plays (gains of 5, 3, and 2 on plays that should have been losses or no gain), then takes a swing pass thrown behind him on the 4th play and makes a 15 yard gain out of it, breaking (or running through a poor) tackle on the way. Might not be sexy but those are some good plays.

I agree with the gist of what you're saying...to me the Bama plays give good insight into just how good RS is.
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:06 pm to
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Shep was the one threat LSU had to break one


Looked to me like we went to more of a zone-blocking philosophy last year, which puts a premium on backs that can find their own hole (versus a pre-determined location for them to run to), and also on cutback runners.

Quite honestly, Shep was the only back on LSU's roster that fit that bill. The long run against Auburn is a perfect example of him finding the right spot and bursting through it. I suspect any other back on LSU's roster would have turned that blocking into a 2 or 3 yard gain. That wasn't much of a hole and it didn't last long.
Posted by Tiger_in_Texas
Houston
Member since Jul 2005
621 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:07 pm to
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I realize most of the people that hate Miles don't have a clue about the workings of a football team from a player and coaching standpoint.


I recognize poor offensive production when I see it.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19244 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:13 pm to
The first Tulame hightlight looks like one his HS hightlights. He runs the whole team to oneside and cuts back for a TD

Looking for a lot more where that came from.
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:21 pm to
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bullshite


Not trying to start an argument, I don't remember how many fumbles he had, but RS fumbled the second time he touched the ball last season. First play a nice run where he got turned upside down by the tackler, then very next play caught a screen pass, made a nice move, and coughed up the ball, recovered by Vandy.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:25 pm to
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he had trouble holding on to the ball at the beginning


bullshite


really?

quote:

i can't blame Miles for not playing him in big situations.


how ab at all in the UF game when the offense was horrendous


that would be a big game. and was a close game. at the time maybe Miles didn't want a true freshman to make a mistake or turn the ball over. seems resonable to me. not sure why you can't understand that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:29 pm to
Think he lost one fumble, had 45 carries.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:30 pm to
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Don't buy the fumble excuse. Didn't happen much


but it did in the beginning. and that is usually all it takes to keep a freshman off the field.


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Shep was the one threat LSU had to break one. Don't care what he couldn't do, the offense was so pathetic nothing he could have done would have hurt any more than the offense was already "hurt"


i am not saying that things might not have been better if he had played more. but we did not lose a game by more than 10 points last year. as bad as the offense was we were still in games.

its easy for us to sit back and say what plays should be called and which players should be in the game, but when you are responsible for what happens then you just might think about things a little differently.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 3:32 pm to
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Think he lost one fumble, had 45 carries.


and it was the second time he touched the ball. he also got body slammed a couple of times in the beginning. Les probably just did not think he was ready.

crap, why did this thread turn into a Miles debate yet again? the OP posted a video as a positive reflection of Shep. yet here we are.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 3:36 pm
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