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Shaq White vs Big Receivers
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:13 pm
In years past, LSU seemed more comfortable using Rashard Robinson or Jalen Collins against opponents' bigger receivers. Do you think Steele will allow White to man up against the likes of DeRunnya Wilson, Dhaquille Williams and Pharaoe Cooper?
With all due respect to White, I am thinking Ed Paris' length or Kevin Toliver's girth give LSU a better matchup against the bigs.
With all due respect to White, I am thinking Ed Paris' length or Kevin Toliver's girth give LSU a better matchup against the bigs.
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Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:21 pm to victoire sécurisé
Never heard Tre referred to as Shaq
Is this actually a thing.
As to your question, he can cover all WR.
Is this actually a thing.
As to your question, he can cover all WR.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:23 pm to victoire sécurisé
Thought he was pretty good when matched up against Treadwell. He's a true cover guy.
Also, Toliver is the tallest while Paris is the CB with the most bulk and most physical.
Also, Toliver is the tallest while Paris is the CB with the most bulk and most physical.
This post was edited on 8/29/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:26 pm to Rouge
Yeah the Shaq thing is a thing. Borne always refers to him as Tre'Davious but a lot of people call him Tre or Shaq.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:29 pm to victoire sécurisé
Who is this you speak of?
I thought this guy played for SC or Wash.
I thought this guy played for SC or Wash.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:30 pm to Mattwells90
Never seen anyone call him Shaq
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:33 pm to smash williams
He has speed, quickness, toughness in run support, solid tackler, great technique and can diagnose a route quickly. He's just doesn't appear to match up against big receivers. I can remember DeRunnya getting the better of him a couple of times. One in particular was a 3rd and mid-range that everyone knew was a 5-yd slant. White just got out-muscled to the spot.
LSU's D will be great this year as long as injuries don't bite them. It speaks to their strength that I see White of as all people as someone to scheme against.
LSU's D will be great this year as long as injuries don't bite them. It speaks to their strength that I see White of as all people as someone to scheme against.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:39 pm to wildtigercat93
The players definitely call him Shaq.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:43 pm to Rouge
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Never heard Tre referred to as Shaq
I don't remember the specifics, but at some point on a recruiting video he explained it.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:44 pm to Rouge
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Never heard Tre referred to as Shaq
Been calling him that for a while. Not me personally, but some people have. It's like Jojo LaFell. Not a lot of people know the nickname.
Doesn't Diarse have a nickname?
Posted on 8/29/15 at 7:45 pm to victoire sécurisé
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Do you think Steele will allow White to man up against the likes of DeRunnya Wilson, Dhaquille Williams and Pharaoe Cooper?
Yes, 90% of playing man is disrupting the route to throw off timing and it really only has to be a half second off on most plays.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 8:00 pm to wildtigercat93
His dad is tall (about 6'8 or so) and dark as midnight, so his friends in Shreveport called him Shaq. Tre being his son was nicknamed "Baby Shaq" during his childhood.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 8:20 pm to victoire sécurisé
Yes for bigger WR's they will probably go with Paris, and maybe Tolliver(depending on experience). However, at the beginning of Camp they had White and Paris as starting CB's, but with Dwayne Thomas back, I read where he is probably going to be the starter, but really at LSU the words starter are not like in the NFL or something where it means playing time is much more than other players. LSU does a lot of rotating, so having White, Thomas, Paris, Tolliver, Lewis and others is great. Means we won't have a deficiency at the CB or S spot.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 8:31 pm to victoire sécurisé
LSU should use white the way New England used Revis last year. They should man up Tre White on the teams #2 receiver, then we take our #2 corner and put him the other teams best receiver with safety help over the top. White would absolutely shutdown our opponents #2 receivers every weekend. That way we give our #2 corner help over the top against our opponents #1 receiver. New England won a superbowl with that defensive strategy.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 4:08 am to victoire sécurisé
Tre White is our best CB by far and an elite CB in the nation. Arguably the best cover CB in the country, along with Hargreaves. You don't take them off the other teams WR1 just because of their height. And Tre White has proven he can guard bigger WRs as well. Not a problem for him.
What have these guys done to possibly give you that thought? We have no idea if these guys will be able to play at a high level vs the competition at this level. Ones a true freshman and the other is a true sophomore that was strictly a special teamer as a true freshman. And I like both Toliver and Paris, but just have no clue how they will be at CB on this level. I'm not about to take our elite pass coverage CB off of the other teams too WR strictly because of height and put a young guy with no experience on him instead.
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I am thinking Ed Paris' length or Kevin Toliver's girth give LSU a better matchup against the bigs.
What have these guys done to possibly give you that thought? We have no idea if these guys will be able to play at a high level vs the competition at this level. Ones a true freshman and the other is a true sophomore that was strictly a special teamer as a true freshman. And I like both Toliver and Paris, but just have no clue how they will be at CB on this level. I'm not about to take our elite pass coverage CB off of the other teams too WR strictly because of height and put a young guy with no experience on him instead.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:05 am to KG5989
I'm not sure what it'll look like, but I have no doubt they'll figure it out. I loved Dwayne Thomas already, but I really like him at that #2 corner now that Mills is out. Will provide much needed experience and leadership in the secondary. Especially in our base. We have multiple options for nickel/dime with alll the talented personel we have. They'll figure it out. 
Posted on 8/30/15 at 11:19 am to victoire sécurisé
Guys like Duke Williams are virtually unguardable. The few inch difference won't matter at all, anf he will need to be doubled regardless.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 12:13 pm to GeauxPack81
I hope we push duke Williams buttons in the auburn game early to piss him off. He will likely blow up and get ejected and we kick that arse.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 5:22 pm to GeauxPack81
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Guys like Duke Williams are virtually unguardable. The few inch difference won't matter at all, anf he will need to be doubled regardless
This is why you put White man'd up on the teams #2 WR and shut him down then we double the teams best WR with our #2 corner and a safety.
It has nothing to do with putting our best cover guy on their best WR. People really need to get over that idea.
Derrelle Revis is arguably the best cover corner in the NFL and Belichick always man'd him up on the opponents #2 WR, and doubled the opponents #1 WR.
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 5:27 pm
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