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re: Shape of LSU Basketball
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:09 am to saintsfan92612
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:09 am to saintsfan92612
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Why did the NCAA take away preseason games? I liked playing EA Sports etc.
They still play scrimmages against teams from around here. We scrimmaged Southern Miss this year.
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Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:09 am to Elleshoe
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I THINK next year will be better. O'Bryant and Hamilton will be key. Hopefully these guys make Warren and White better. Man, yesterday was frustrating. I've never been one to berate our own team but yesterday I think all of the years of frustration came out towards Warren and White
We lack athleticism on the perimeter to defend and if Isaac can show his athleticism and some defending I think he could be on the court sooner than I expected. Defending the perimeter is our biggest problem and the reason we play zone to begin with.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:11 am to BayouBengals03
Yeah, I know we scrimmage, but I was wondering what the NCAA reasoning was for taking away preseason games?
There really is no difference except scrimmages are not supposed to have an official score kept(but they still do for some reason)
There really is no difference except scrimmages are not supposed to have an official score kept(but they still do for some reason)
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:11 am to Tiger Authority
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Defending the perimeter is our biggest problem and the reason we play zone to begin with.
There are a lot of times which we should play zone even if we could defend the perimeter.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:11 am to Hitchcock
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Why would I count a player that was here for two years and consider him one and done? Because he redshirted?
Did he redshirt due to an injury?
Yeah but it's not as if having a year of practicing under the program wasn't immensely helpful to his development.
Posters that cite TT as an example are acting as if everyone just knew that TT at the time was destined to be a lottery pick. In reality, nobody knew. It was luck.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:11 am to Tiger Authority
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Defending the perimeter is our biggest problem and the reason we play zone to begin with.
true. but Trent is stubborn to a fault with staying in the zone. I wanted to walk over and punch him in the face yesterday.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:11 am to josh336
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He's one unlucky seeding paired with North Carolina away from taking 3 different teams to the Sweet 16.
That's little more than speculation and unworthy of debate. Admittedly I missed the Nevada team he took to the Sweet 16 but the fact is he produced one good year, and one good year alone, at each of his destinations. Again a record that could hardly be deemed incredible.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:12 am to Elleshoe
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true. but Trent is stubborn to a fault with staying in the zone. I wanted to walk over and punch him in the face yesterday.
When the game is out of reach do you change your philosophy that late in the game or bite the bullet knowing that you are going to be a zone team this year? I don't disagree with you, I'm just throwing out a question because I don't know what to do in that situation. I wish, as I'm sure TJ does, that we were just a man team. But this club has shown that we don't have the ability.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:13 am to Tiger Authority
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Posters that cite TT as an example are acting as if everyone just knew that TT at the time was destined to be a lottery pick. In reality, nobody knew. It was luck.
Well yes.
Tyrus Thomas definitely wasn't a John Wall-type who we all knew was going pro after one year coming in.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:14 am to Tiger Authority
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When the game is out of reach do you change your philosophy that late in the game or bite the bullet knowing that you are going to be a zone team this year? I don't disagree with you, I'm just throwing out a question because I don't know what to do in that situation. I wish, as I'm sure TJ does, that we were just a man team. But this club has shown that we don't have the ability.
I kind of had a problem with us letting them hold the ball at the end of the game when we were down by 25. Don't fricking quit.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:14 am to BayouBengals03
This is why you give TJ at least one more year:
Nevada
yr Overall WAC
1999-00 9-20 6-10
2000-01 10-18 3-13
2001-02 17-13 9-9
2002-03 18-14 11-7 (NIT First Round)
2003-04 25-9 13-5 (1st)NCAA Sweet 16;WAC
Tournament Champion
Total 79-74 42-44
It took a few years but TJ built a program where there has never been success. He has a few players on this team that have talent but are young. Based on past performance, next year there the team should show improvement. I would be happy with and NIT bid, of course I know that anything less than a Sweet 16 birth would cause most people on here to fire the guy.
Nevada
yr Overall WAC
1999-00 9-20 6-10
2000-01 10-18 3-13
2001-02 17-13 9-9
2002-03 18-14 11-7 (NIT First Round)
2003-04 25-9 13-5 (1st)NCAA Sweet 16;WAC
Tournament Champion
Total 79-74 42-44
It took a few years but TJ built a program where there has never been success. He has a few players on this team that have talent but are young. Based on past performance, next year there the team should show improvement. I would be happy with and NIT bid, of course I know that anything less than a Sweet 16 birth would cause most people on here to fire the guy.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:18 am to Tiger Authority
I mean, you have to adjust. If the zone isn't working (like the last 2 games) get out of it and switch to man and just see if it works. I mean its pretty obvious that they saw what was coming. UK and Ole Miss combined to shoot FIFTY FIVE PERCENT against us from three. And 52% from the field. Pretty obvious the zone isn't working much better.
This post was edited on 1/23/11 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:20 am to Elleshoe
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but Trent is stubborn to a fault with staying in the zone. I wanted to walk over and punch him in the face yesterday.
The fact that Stringer, Derenbecker, Ludwig and Green just CAN'T play man defense AT ALL. (And not that the others are that much better.)
Our best starting 5 is Bass, Stringer, Turner, Derenbecker and Green.
That's four guys that can't defend at all, and one guy that can't shoot at all.
That's really not a good combination.
When you factor in that every player that comes off the bench has some sort of MAJOR hole in their game, you're going to have some big problems.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:23 am to Sheep
I'd rather see us take our lumps in man than watch teams fill it up against us from 3 while in the zone. Hell, I don't even know if Trent realizes you can switch it up. I can count on 4 fingers how many times we switched to man yesterday 
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:26 am to TigerV
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I admit that I do not follow much of the LSU basketball program
then you shouldnt start a thread about them, positive or negative
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:27 am to Tiger Authority
Why is it that Fox at UGA who inherited a total bag of shite two seasons ago has UGA very competitive and LSU is uncompetitive against decent teams? Yeah, building might take some time, but 3-4 years is a joke. People might say, whoa, but GA has double the population as LA, but Hewitt at G Tech hasn't been able to leverage that into any kind of consistent winning. UGA beat UK 77-70 while the P&G had just a slightly different outcome, why is this?
So I ask, what is the real deal with Trent and the program? The guys do not even attempt to play hard nose D, I don't get why the program is still so deep in the shitter given the time frame with so few decent players added to the program.
From a Jan 6 ajc blog regarding Fox:
LINK
So I ask, what is the real deal with Trent and the program? The guys do not even attempt to play hard nose D, I don't get why the program is still so deep in the shitter given the time frame with so few decent players added to the program.
From a Jan 6 ajc blog regarding Fox:
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“I know last year I said that I wasn’t surprised with where we were because they were so honest with me when I got here,” the Bulldogs coach said Thursday. “But as I reflect, it was probably in worse shape than I wanted to admit. We’ve made progress. But there’s still days where you feel like the train ran you over.”
Possibly. But these days, that train mostly runs through Paul Hewitt’s office at Georgia Tech. Of the two major college basketball programs in the area, only one obviously is going in the right direction. Both open conference play this weekend. The Bulldogs are being talked about as a dark horse in the SEC in only Fox’s second season. The Jackets, after non-conference losses to Kennesaw State and Siena, project as the gum under the rest of the ACC’s shoes. Fox isn’t in a position to gloat. He is 2-0 against Tech and says, “That’s important.
We didn’t come here to finish second.” But he also knows that the stated goal of having a rich basketball tradition in Athens is far down the road. Nonetheless, the job he has done in a short time is nothing short of remarkable. He took over a wreck of a program, engineered a few upsets, put a scare into Kentucky in Lexington and finished 14-17 — a losing record, but a clear 180 for the team.
LINK
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:30 am to tirebiter
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Why is it that Fox at UGA who inherited a total bag of shite two seasons ago has UGA very competitive and LSU is uncompetitive against decent teams?
I'm pretty sure he did inherit Thompkins and and Leslie
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:37 am to Elleshoe
Even if he did he has added productive players to the roster. What exactly are we witnessing in 2011 at LSU, a desire to be better in 2013 if then?
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:38 am to tirebiter
I THINK we will be a tourny team next year. We have to be. Or else Trent will probably be gone.
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:41 am to Elleshoe
I doubt we are.
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