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Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:03 am to
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I've wondered how much was regression and how much it had to do with his hand injury against Auburn and getting less and less reps. Could he have hurt his hand worse than believed against Auburn and tried to hide it? .

Perhaps, or perhaps he started throwing off his backfoot again.

Fwiw, like JJ's release, I blame Crowton for JL's issue.
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:04 am to
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He's going to have a good game then too btw.


frick THAT!!!!
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:05 am to
He was throwing off his backfoot during Tennessee/Florida as well, that was one thing that he has never seemed to correct.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:05 am to
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If what BilJ is saying about Krags cleaning up JJ's release are accurate, we might not need so much luck.


this thread boils down to the "it's feasible that JJ may be the best option to start the season" folks vs. the "it's all rigged, Miles is starting JJ because of bias/loyalty/senior/etc., and had no intention of giving anyone else a shot" crowd.
Posted by Fishhead
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:06 am to
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Bye week. Any LSU fan with any knowledge knows JJ does well with extra time to prepare. His best games have always been after a layoff.
Something to be said there...good point.

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That's another reason why he'll be the starter against Oregon. He's going to have a good game then too btw.
OH NO!!! How terrible THAT would be!!
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:07 am to
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He was throwing off his backfoot during Tennessee/Florida as well, that was one thing that he has never seemed to correct.


throwing off his back foot is not his problem, it's panicking under pressure and heaving it...much more mental than mechanical.


Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:08 am to
and everyone sees themselves as right and anyone who disagrees as ignorant... it is the way of the rant and the way it has always been....


Of course you also have the folks that believe if you say anything negative about an LSU player it means you do not like them and a negatiger as well....


So many groups and subgroups on the Rant
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:08 am to
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Miles is starting JJ because of bias/loyalty/senior/etc


Every single player that starts does so because of coaches bias.
Posted by Fishhead
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:09 am to
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this thread boils down to the "it's feasible that JJ may be the best option to start the season" folks vs. the "it's all rigged, Miles is starting JJ because of bias/loyalty/senior/etc., and had no intention of giving anyone else a shot" crowd.
Exactly. I don't think there's any real "JJ for Heisman" in the crowd. I know where I am...

I think (at this moment) that JJ is probably the better option to start the season. I also am open to the idea that it could change come fall camp...depending on his play vs Mett's play. But yeah, right now, I'd rather have JJ start against Oregon in Dallas.
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:10 am to
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He was throwing off his backfoot during Tennessee/Florida
Yes. And everytime he did; A) It was an awful, miserable throw, or B) He got bailed out by a ridiculously athletic play.

When he steps in, he is a goddam assassin.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:10 am to
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much more mental than mechanical.


Each QB has mental blocks, Jefferson has them much like Lee...

Last year Lee seemed more inclined to throw it away when he felt pressure
Jefferson would tuck it and run forward instead of backwards


Each made small improvements in that area but they both still struggle with getting panicked. Of course you would still see them on occasion standing in the pocket and taking a big shot as well.
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:11 am to
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this thread boils down to the "it's feasible that JJ may be the best option to start the season" folks vs. the "it's all rigged, Miles is starting JJ because of bias/loyalty/senior/etc., and had no intention of giving anyone else a shot" crowd.


Yes.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:12 am to
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Every single player that starts does so because of coaches bias.


bias in the sense that a flaw is preventing him from making an objective decision...



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:13 am to
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Each QB has mental blocks, Jefferson has them much like Lee...



Yeah, I certainly don't see one as an advantage over the other. QB ratings were nearly identical. It was the worst season of QB play I have ever seen at LSU.

Both have miserable habits that I don't see being corrected, and I don't see either ever being consistent. We will see though.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:14 am to
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bias in the sense that a flaw is preventing him from making an objective decision...



I don't think my opinion fits in your definition of bias.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:14 am to
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this thread boils down to the "JJ and Miles should never be questioned. JJ is clearly the best player because he's been at LSU for 4 years." folks vs. the "it's all rigged, Miles is starting JJ because of bias/loyalty/senior/etc., and had no intention of giving anyone else a shot" crowd.



FIFY
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:15 am to
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FIFY
I don't doubt that you believe that to be true.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:16 am to
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ForeLSU



Who would you put your money on as the opening game starter? Honestly. And why.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:18 am to
It has been stated on here...many times. JJ should start because he's been at LSU. Mett shouldn't play because the SEC is vastly superior to any other football and no one could succeed without prior experience in the SEC alone.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:18 am to
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Who would you put your money on as the opening game starter?
JJ.

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And why.
Because the coaches feel he gives us the best chance to win that game.
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