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re: Saban underachevied at LSU...here are the facts....
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:29 am to ForeLSU
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:29 am to ForeLSU
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basically coasted through 2004, appearing not to give much of a shite. I'm glad he was here, but I'm an LSU fan, so he's ancient history now...
I dunno about the entire 04 campaign, every team we lost to that season finished in the Top 10. I do believe the Iowa game he coasted and did not exactly care.
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Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:30 am to Tigerdandy
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9-2 with a major bowl disappointed u?
They went 9-3 and looked like shite doing it. And the Cap One Bowl is not a major Bowl.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:31 am to tduecen
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Basically you are hurt because Saban took a job in SEC and turned them into a winner and you are jealous.
DING, DING!!!!!!!
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:32 am to tduecen
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Considering what the man did for the school it is ok. The guy gave LSU it's first championship since 58. The guy helped turn LSU into a household name again. The guy made LSU attractive to recruits again something that had been lacking.
To totally ignore what he accomplished while at LSU is well in my opinion idiotic. He deserves the praise for what he did during his tenure at LSU.
I have said this all along.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:34 am to ForeLSU
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he did a poor job of recruiting o-linemen his last few years and basically coasted through 2004, appearing not to give much of a shite
This I agree with!!!
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:38 am to tigerskin2006
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but he is LSU's foe now and should be treated has such.
He is a coach of another team, I have respect for him just same way I respect Tressel, Stoops, Brown, Meyer, and Patreno.
He coached at LSU and helped put the program back on the map after a decade of being basically irrelevant. He is one of top 3 coaches in college football currently.
Nothing loyal about it, I see it as a business and have no problem with way it is handled. As far as recruits he is recruiting more against Florida/Auburn/Georgia than LSU for players so that does not even bother me.
If a player decides that Alabama presents a better opportunity for him than LSU I am not going to come to message board and bash him either. Kid wants to play for Saban, so be it, he is not going to hurt my feelings.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:42 am to tduecen
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It is a BUSINESS, you would not stay at your current job if a better company came and offered you a job with increased salary and better benefits.
I got one better for you. Bama wrote out a blank check for Saban to sign as a bonus to get him there. And it's not like he left LSU to go to Bama. He left LSU for a better gig, for the NFL. THEN he went to Bama. And yes, they are our rivals but it's none of our freakin business where he goes nor should we assasinate his character nor should we deny what he did when he was here nor should we do embarassing things like make anti Saban signs or burn his life size photo in a bonfire for all of the nation to see.
And you're right, it's all out of jealousy and fear that Saban is going to trump LSU with better success at Bama. And he already has.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 11:45 am
Posted on 7/19/10 at 11:50 am to RealityTiger
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LSU with better success at Bama. And he already has.
I wouldn't go that far, past 2 years Bama has been better but 07 LSU was better with Miles. This upcoming season LSU does have the talent to win vs Alabama (and we have been close past 2 seasons) and 2011 LSU is poised to make a national title run.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:01 pm to Choctaw
Saban had his lapses, it's true, but he still hasn't had as many as Miles, and their impact was not as great. And I never had a doubt that after those bad losses Saban was kicking somebody's arse and getting it fixed. With Miles you always have a doubt that they guy even knows what the problem is, much less how to fix it.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:02 pm to tigerskin2006
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You don't lay down just because of what Saban did for LSU in the past.
Who said anything about laying down? Just because you respect an opposing coach for what he has accomplished it is laying down.
If Les and LSU want to be the best well they need to beat the best. When you win it shuts people up and people would quit bashing Les. Les set a unusual precedent with fans and came out of the gate strong. Fans expected him to continue to win 10+ games a year and challenge for SEC Championships. That hasn't happened past 2 years and those who hate come out.
Les is not the first coach to suffer this, Tressel had things said about him this past season, Carrol had things said about him. One won and shut up his peers, the other bolted for the NFL.
If Les wins it shuts people up and the outrage is not as bad. If he beats Saban the comparisons will eventually end.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:10 pm to tigerskin2006
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You are an example of how weak our fan base has become. Saban this Saban that..wear Bama gear it fits you better...
So if someone says that what Saban did here was great, and still think he is a top notch coach they are NOT an LSU fan????????/
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:10 pm to tigerskin2006
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You are an example of how weak our fan base has become. Saban this Saban that..wear Bama gear it fits you better...
Fan base is weak when I go to Tiger Stadium against an SEC Foe and by the third quarter the stadium is half full.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:12 pm to tduecen
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Fan base is weak when I go to Tiger Stadium against an SEC Foe and by the third quarter the stadium is half full.
BOOM!!!!!!
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:20 pm to tigerskin2006
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You are making my point..it's weak.. It is embarassing.
It doesn't have to do with Saban why the stadium is half full on a Saturday night.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:23 pm to RealityTiger
[quote]The difference between Saban and Miles is that with Saban, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team looked like shite, but a bunch of games that they dominated all 3 phases of the game.
bullshite
With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT
bullshite also
bullshite
With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT
bullshite also
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:26 pm to ForeLSU
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I would say he deserves recognition for what he did...he was hired to do a job, did it well and was paid well to do it. And I'm appreciative for his efforts. But his annual flirtations with the NFL were a distraction to the program, he did a poor job of recruiting o-linemen his last few years and basically coasted through 2004, appearing not to give much of a shite. I'm glad he was here, but I'm an LSU fan, so he's ancient history now...
Absolutely right. I agree with every word of this.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:28 pm to tigerskin2006
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They left when Saban was there too.
Can you give me an example of a game where in third quarter the stadium was half empty against an SEC Foe.
It has been a huge problem past 3 years, I do not blame Les Miles for that. I blame the fans in general and the fact it is much harder and expensive to get a ticket. I believe many fans are spoiled in the fact they think LSU should win every game and decide to leave at halftime to beat the traffic of a 10 point ball game.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:30 pm to TGFN57
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[quote]The difference between Saban and Miles is that with Saban, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team looked like shite, but a bunch of games that they dominated all 3 phases of the game.
bullshite
With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT
bullshite also
I don't know what you have been watching...
I am not a Saban disciple and not interested in getting into that conversation, but Miles does not seem to run a tight ship and it shows on the field with a clear lack of discipline.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:32 pm to TGFN57
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With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT
bullshite also
Not bullshite at all. This is very true.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:39 pm to tigerskin2006
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The stadium did empty out when Saban was there too like when we lost to Bama 31-0 and Florida and there were others.
So you mean in 4th quarter with like 10 minutes left. That is common of every stadium during blowouts. When it is happening in third quarter of games yet to be decided is when it becomes an issue.
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