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Posted on 12/19/11 at 9:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If Boise State went undefeated this year, they would be in the national championship playing LSU.
If the Oklahoma State kicker put the pull between the goal posts, OSU would be in the national championship playing LSU.
How many would take Boise State, had they gone undefeated this year, over Alabama? Similarly, if OSU had gone undefeated, would they suddenly be a better team than Alabama?
The media and fans have been saying that LSU and Alabama are the two best teams in the country since early October. BSU or OSU going undefeated wouldn't have changed anyone's opinion that either of them could compete with Alabama, yet if either had gone undefeated, they would have been in the national championship - and the media and fans wouldn't be saying "the BCS got it wrong". After all, if the only 2 undefeated teams are in the national championship, how could the BCS have gotten it wrong? Yet, again, no one would take an undefeated BSU or OSU over the second "best" team in the country in Alabama.
That's where the "best two team" argument falls apart.
If the Oklahoma State kicker put the pull between the goal posts, OSU would be in the national championship playing LSU.
How many would take Boise State, had they gone undefeated this year, over Alabama? Similarly, if OSU had gone undefeated, would they suddenly be a better team than Alabama?
The media and fans have been saying that LSU and Alabama are the two best teams in the country since early October. BSU or OSU going undefeated wouldn't have changed anyone's opinion that either of them could compete with Alabama, yet if either had gone undefeated, they would have been in the national championship - and the media and fans wouldn't be saying "the BCS got it wrong". After all, if the only 2 undefeated teams are in the national championship, how could the BCS have gotten it wrong? Yet, again, no one would take an undefeated BSU or OSU over the second "best" team in the country in Alabama.
That's where the "best two team" argument falls apart.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 9:57 pm to Polar Bear
actually that kick by the OSU kicker is still controversial because it looked good!
Posted on 12/19/11 at 11:46 pm to Polar Bear
quote:
If Boise State went undefeated this year, they would be in the national championship playing LSU.
If the Oklahoma State kicker put the pull between the goal posts, OSU would be in the national championship playing LSU.
How many would take Boise State, had they gone undefeated this year, over Alabama? Similarly, if OSU had gone undefeated, would they suddenly be a better team than Alabama?
The media and fans have been saying that LSU and Alabama are the two best teams in the country since early October. BSU or OSU going undefeated wouldn't have changed anyone's opinion that either of them could compete with Alabama, yet if either had gone undefeated, they would have been in the national championship - and the media and fans wouldn't be saying "the BCS got it wrong". After all, if the only 2 undefeated teams are in the national championship, how could the BCS have gotten it wrong? Yet, again, no one would take an undefeated BSU or OSU over the second "best" team in the country in Alabama.
That's where the "best two team" argument falls apart.
Point taken. But that is hypothetical. There are
"if's" all over this CFB season including several in T-town on Nov5. However, your argument is why I am in favor of a +1 system. I would despise anything more. I don't ever recall #5 have an argument they should have a shot. Only 4 teams and we can keep the bowl system in tack and that's what makes CFB great.
This post was edited on 12/19/11 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/20/11 at 12:30 am to bama1959
Bama > OSU
OSU's resume > bama's resume
These 2 don't contradict each other
OSU's resume > bama's resume
These 2 don't contradict each other
Posted on 12/20/11 at 12:59 am to motorbreath
Bama > OSU
OSU's resume > bama's resume
These 2 don't contradict each other
Not in our new reality they don't. Apparently Alabama is just that good. They should be in LSU's place instead of 2nd place. This is our new reality according to Gumpland master Nick the little weasel.
OSU's resume > bama's resume
These 2 don't contradict each other

Not in our new reality they don't. Apparently Alabama is just that good. They should be in LSU's place instead of 2nd place. This is our new reality according to Gumpland master Nick the little weasel.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:38 am to themunch
+ 1 is the way to go, been sayin it all along. They can keep their precious Bowl system in tact. Just add the + 1 after the top 4 square off in their respective Bowls!
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 7:39 am
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:42 am to Hot Carl
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I loathe your very existence
Your post don't bother me, like you hope.. I actually have compassion for people like you who are harassed by the devil.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:45 am to tubucoco
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actually that kick by the OSU kicker is still controversial because it looked good!
Correct.
On that note, we know the Alabama kicks failed to reach the goal line
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The two best teams are playing, looks like it worked as well as it could have.
People keep saying the 2 best teams..
Because I have great respect for Alabama, I would have to say I agree.
BUT, since Alabama didn't play OSU this year, we have no idea, we can only speculate...
since alabama played LSU at home and lost, we have head to head results in the books.
with no play off, no plus one, it still blows my mind that Alabama gets a rematch...
It's called a National Championship...we have 119 teams...and we play about 13 or 14 games max...
Head to head results should be huge, should they not?
It should be that LSU earned the right to represent the SEC in the MNC game, and Alabama should be in the Sugar Bowl playing Michigan...
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:59 am to bama1989
quote:Are you serious?
As much as some try to diss it I've found that fan attitude does trickle down to player attitude. Maybe not 100% but there's an influence that is undeniable.

Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:59 am to Honkus
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eyeball test
Bama > Okie St
Be honest, how many more Bama games did your eyeballs see compared to Okie St games?
I hate when voters said they're using the eyeball test when most of them probably watched Okie St 2 or 3 times at most but saw Bama play 7 or 8 times.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:02 am to ApexTiger
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Uh!!!!!!!!!!!! Nick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... they have a process after the regular season
There's a process for FBS Football as well. Like it or not, this IS the process. Jeez people, let it go....
Were you bitching as well in 2007 when we backed into the BCS Championship?
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:03 am to ApexTiger
you right on that one, Alabama and Saban duped everyone into thinking they deserved a second shot because thy played LSU close and lost by a FG even though the game was in their backyard with them having all the advantages. You lose, you stay at home simple as that, but Saban holds a lot of power with media, especially ESPN where they continually hype him up. I watched them interview him yesterday, and you would swear it is them that won the SEC and are the consensus No. 1 team the way they hype them all the time!
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 8:05 am
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:07 am to htownjeep
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as well in 2007 when we backed into the BCS Championship?
We won the Division and the SEC Championship in '07, no damn comparison, so forget that BS
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 8:08 am
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:25 am to DEG
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Let it go and enjoy the guaranteed AP National Championship, as well as the AL and MS state championships. Oh, and the sec championship too.
DEG, there will be no AP championship if we lose unless LSU is clearly the better team and loses on a fluke. Bama will be voted #1 as they should be.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:27 am to Mulat
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We won the Division and the SEC Championship in '07, no damn comparison, so forget that BS
Yeah, and we had two losses. You could have these arguments all day. But, yes...we had to sit and wait for others to lose and it all fell the right way for us. We didn't bitch about the process in place back then.
What is wrong with some of you? This is an awesome opportunity to beat bama twice in one year! Quit being pansies and act like we have the best team in the country.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:29 am to htownjeep
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Were you bitching as well in 2007 when we backed into the BCS Championship?
No because we won the SEC in 2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake up!!!! it isn't the same situation. Alabama didn't win the SEC
You have 2 teams from the SEC this year...and one of them didn't win the SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:30 am to Mulat
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We won the Division and the SEC Championship in '07, no damn comparison, so forget that BS
Amen!
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