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re: Russell Shepard might go undrafted in the NFL draft
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
He's a bust. For all the hype he had...he's a bust.
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:21 am to Powerman
Honestly, Harvin is a lot quicker. He gets to his top speed faster.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:27 am to homeindadome
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I don't think he would be doing much better at a school like Oregon unless he was playing QB, which I'm not sure would have happened. His speed is the same at LSU is it would be at Oregon. Also, his hands are the same at LSU as they would be at Oregon
Yes but the defenses he would be facing in conference would be MUCH slower............
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:30 am to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
He still has a year. It's not easy to change positions.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:32 am to Rickdaddy4188
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It's not easy to change positions.
guys do it all the time, esp coming from high school where QBs are glorified running backs
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Not that light they don't. Shepard weighs nothing.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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guys do it all the time, esp coming from high school where QBs are glorified running backs
Yeah, Shep sure had experience at WR in HS.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:38 am to c on z
Yeah play qb your whole life and then switch at 18, when you weigh maybe 185. Yeah that's normal.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:41 am to c on z
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Yeah, Shep sure had experience at WR in HS.
tons of QBs go on to be RBs, CBs, WRs, Ss, etc
being a QB in high school, esp in option offenses (which shep was in) is almosta pointless designation
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Yeah play qb your whole life and then switch at 18, when you weigh maybe 185. Yeah that's normal.
it is normal
reuben randle, mo claiborne, spencer ware, etc
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:44 am to SlowFlowPro
They are big guys Slow. You know this. Shep is no where near their size.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Is shep 200lbs?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:47 am to Rickdaddy4188
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They are big guys Slow. You know this. Shep is no where near their size.
how much difference in mass do you think mo claiborne had from shep when both were in their first year at LSU? it wasn't much
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Are we talking about now or then? I'm pretty sure we are talking now. Claiborne is bigger than him now. And honestly shep has had some big plays too his career.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:51 am to Rickdaddy4188
I'm almost positive shep was ten lbs lighter. U could be wrong.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Yeah play qb your whole life and then switch at 18, when you weigh maybe 185. Yeah that's normal.
that was pretty much my downfall.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
I meant I could be wrong. Auto correct
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:53 am to Rebel
NO EVERYONE DOES THAT. Successfully
Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Successfully
you don't have to tell me.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 2:10 am to Rebel
It isn't even that RS would have been a QB at another school; he would have been used in a dramatically different way.
Oregon would use RS on jet sweeps 3-4 times a game, tunnel screens at least once a game, underneath crossing routes/rub routes across the field a few times a game, and maybe a swing pass here and there. In addition, he would run the wildcat, zone reads, and potentially option plays. These things all play into his strength.
He would also return kicks.
Comparing RS at Oregon v. LSU is apples to oranges, unfortunately.
RS cannot be lined up in a pro style and just be expected to beat the CB. He doesn't have the technique of the natural skills yet to do that. He needs plays that are simple to run and utilize his speed and cutting ability in space.
For example, he runs a jet sweep tonight for 17 yards and we don't give him the ball on the same play again. Why not?! Just hand him the ball already at 75% full acceleration and challenge the defense horizontally to defend it.
This is where I think Miles does a poor job of managing personnel because he is so uber-conservative offensively.
Oregon would use RS on jet sweeps 3-4 times a game, tunnel screens at least once a game, underneath crossing routes/rub routes across the field a few times a game, and maybe a swing pass here and there. In addition, he would run the wildcat, zone reads, and potentially option plays. These things all play into his strength.
He would also return kicks.
Comparing RS at Oregon v. LSU is apples to oranges, unfortunately.
RS cannot be lined up in a pro style and just be expected to beat the CB. He doesn't have the technique of the natural skills yet to do that. He needs plays that are simple to run and utilize his speed and cutting ability in space.
For example, he runs a jet sweep tonight for 17 yards and we don't give him the ball on the same play again. Why not?! Just hand him the ball already at 75% full acceleration and challenge the defense horizontally to defend it.
This is where I think Miles does a poor job of managing personnel because he is so uber-conservative offensively.
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