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re: Russell Shepard is Not a Wide Receiver

Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:42 pm to
Shep has 2 touchdowns carring the ball and 1 touchdown receiving.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:43 pm to
RS is a race horse and if he gets loose aint nobody catching him
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:44 pm to
...Neither was Josh Reed.
Posted by Mikeno
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:45 pm to
I know everyone wants to compare Shep to Percy but, he reminds me more of a McCluster type of player; extremely dangerous out of the backfield, and fairly decent spread out as a receiver. I've been saying this. Tolliver is the one who can be deadly out of the slot for us. Hopefully he can recover fairly quickly.

While not a traditional RB Shep -- like McCluster -- can be utilized on counter and jet sweep type of running plays.

Remember last season when Ole Miss started giving McCluster more touches and plays out of the backfield and fewer routes as a WR? I believe that's what Shep can offer.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:45 pm to
He could be a good receiver if we had an accurate QB that didn't lead him into traffic or throw behind him. We don't have the QB, and we have receivers that could take his place as 3rd receiver so there is no excuse for him not playing running back.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:48 pm to
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Neither was Josh Reed



Reed and Shep are very different. Shep needs the ball in his hands early so he can make plays with his feet. Reed was able to be extremely physical to get open, plus he had Rohan throwing to him.

At the time of Reed/Rohan, we were an outstanding passing team and Reed was best utilized as a receiver. Right now we are a running/defensive team and we need Shep to run the ball - A LOT.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:48 pm to
RS is 6'1" 185 pounds. He can't take 20 handoffs a game out of the backfield and make it a whole season. Keep him at WR....keep handing the ball off to Ridley.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

RS is 6'1" 185 pounds. He can't take 20 handoffs a game out of the backfield and make it a whole season. Keep him at WR....keep handing the ball off to Ridley.


+1
Posted by Mikeno
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:51 pm to


I never said hand him the ball 20 times?

All I'm saying he is deadlier out of the backfield. whether it is rushing attempts or traditional RB routes like a horn; a linebacker could never be able to cover him.

And FWIW, the McClusters, Raineys, etc. seem to hold up to their workload's.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:53 pm
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:53 pm to
Half of Sheps carries are going to be going outside in space where he will be eventually tackled by linebackers, corners, or safeties just as he will as a receiver.

Are you saying that he can't take running the ball up the middle 10 times a game? That's crazy talk.

Do you have a problem with Shep getting the ball 20 or more times in a game?

Also, as a receiver, he will be more vunerable to taking big hits as he catches the ball, especially when poor throws are made (which is common right now).

I don't think your argument stands up to logic.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:56 pm to
To all saying that Shep isn't a WR bc he's not getting receptions..

how many receptions does RR have?

TT?

Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:58 pm to
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I have a want to see him in the backfield more, splitting carries with Ridley

No problem with this but like I said earlier they'd have to have a nickname. Nobody has come up with a good one yet. Maybe - Mohawk and Mercury.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18466 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Shep has 12 carries and 4 receptions. His 4 receptions have gone for less yards than Mitch Joseph's receptions.



dont even compare shep to mitch

RS is nowhere near the level of athlete that Mitch is so we cant hold him up to that type of standard.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:58 pm to
How many carries do RR and TT have?

Obviously those guys are solidified as wide receivers and it's not even worth debating if they aren't.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:59 pm to
There's a reason Shep requested to be put at WR and not RB.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Mikeno
Your friendly neighborhood
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:00 pm to
I believe more than Shep does right now...

But you're right we should look into lining TT and RR up in the backfield as well.

It never was about number of catches or targets. It's just that it seems RS is more comfortable and suited to being in the backfield.
Posted by Mikeno
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:01 pm to
I mean, of course I want Ridley to be the main workhorse... who doesn't? But that doesn't mean that Shep can't line up in the backfield for many of his plays. That's all I'm saying. He just looks more comfortable back there.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

dont even compare shep to mitch



quote:

RS is nowhere near the level of athlete that Mitch is so we cant hold him up to that type of standard


I was just about to bitch at you until I read the second part. I'm just showing the statistics that Shep is the 4th leading receiver on a terrible passing team.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

of course I want Ridley to be the main workhorse... who doesn't?


I do too, most of the time. However, if during the course of a game, the opponents defense is filling the gaps in the line well and Ridley is not being effective, we have to give Shep more carries than Ridley in that particular game. Also, if Ridley gets injured I want Shep to get the most carries on the team.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:07 pm to
Let's keep driving the truck. Just leave the porche in the garage for weekend use only
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