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Runners on first and second- Saturday game

Posted on 4/4/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2502 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 4:43 pm
One out. Deep fly ball to center. Both runners diddle around between bases and do not tag.
This is inexcusable. This is little league stuff.
You always take the extra bag. How is coaching so inept that we cannot teach base running?
As bad as Les was with clock management- CPM has been with base running blunders. This is ongoing for years. Not a one time goof up.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16417 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 4:46 pm to
Score? How good are the runners and how good is the arm?
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2502 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 4:49 pm to
This play had zero bearing on the game. They watched the catch in deep center field, then they mosey on back to the bag. Both runners could have tagged and took the next base. Then third and second with two outs. Instead it was first and second with two outs.
Ben and Len made mention as well.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26641 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:02 pm to
Did not see the game.

In this situation, though, guy on 2B has to be ready to tag since he'll score easily on a hit or error.

Guy on first needs to hang between bases to see if he can get to 3B.

Gotta get at least one to 3B, where he can score any number of ways that don't require a hit.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18390 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:14 pm to
If this is the play I’m thinking about, I totally agree. The ball was hit to the centerfield wall and he stayed halfway. Good coaching would have that runner tag on a ball that deep. If the center fielder drops the ball, he’s scoring anyway if he’s tagging. Little things like that can change a game and that is all on the coaching.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2502 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Little things like that can change a game and that is all on the coaching.


Exactly
But with five down voters I see we have at least five people that have never played baseball before. It’s called fundamentals people
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2775 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:03 pm to
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If the center fielder drops the ball, he’s scoring anyway if he’s tagging.


Uh, no chance in hell a runner at the college level will score from 2nd base on a dropped flyball in CF unless the CF is on a full sprint to the wall with his back turned.

No outs, look to tag. Want to get to 3rd with 1 out.

One out, hang out (halfway) unless the OF is camped very deep.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:09 pm to
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Both runners diddle around between bases and do not tag.


That is puzzling, Tigers have all kinds of experience coaching 3rd who was a great base runner so they must not be listening.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18390 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:27 pm to
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Uh, no chance in hell a runner at the college level will score from 2nd base on a dropped flyball in CF unless the CF is on a full sprint to the wall with his back turned.

I can see you didn’t watch the game. The CF was not just camped out under the ball waiting for the catch. And even if he was, the runner still should’ve tagged.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2093 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:39 pm to
Drost was on 2nd. He should have tagged. I don’t know who made the mistake, Drost or Cain
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2775 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:25 pm to
I didn’t see it. But if he was camped or clearly going to catch it, you’re right, he should tag.

But - he’s not scoring from a tag up position at 2B on a dropped fly ball.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:37 pm to
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If this is the play I’m thinking about, I totally agree. The ball was hit to the centerfield wall and he stayed halfway.

Right. Go halfway, but the outfielder camped under the ball. Okay, at that point it’s an out, so hustle back and tag. We would have had third easily.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:42 pm to
Normally I don’t criticize the coaches too much because they know stuff that I don’t - a guy might be injured or something - but the moment I could not understand was about the fifth inning in game 3. The game was tight, and we had runners at 2nd and 3rd (I think). The next three batters were Cranford, Travinski and Safford. Cranford and Safford are hitting 150 or less.

This was our chance. Arnold and Stafford should have been subbed in. Vandy got Cranford out, walked Travinski to the open base, and then got Safford out. A hit there and we probably win the game.
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5818 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:45 pm to
I think Pawl expects he gets another year so he’s going to keep in whoever he wants & no one is going to tell him how to manage his team, results be damned.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2502 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
Looking at the pics of him burying his head in his hands and hat, and not doing a damn thing to “coach” let alone guide, tells you all you need to know. That’s pathetic. His teams have never been able to bunt- that’s pure lazy- and we always have base path blunders, all lazy and stupid. That’s coaching. Period.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2093 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:09 pm to
Those 3 never batted in that order. So much for your substitution plan there
Posted by coachw
Member since Jun 2017
1872 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:48 pm to
ALWAYS been the case with Mainieri "coached" teams. ZERO fundamentals taught(don't think he can teach or coach the fundamentals of the game.) Mainieri teams ALWAYS run the bases poorly, can't bunt, don't understand baseball situation, etc. This guy is a COMPLETE nut job. As I have been telling the Pawl ball draggers BEFORE the season even started, THIS GUY HAS TO GO!!!!!
Posted by fishdoctor
Member since Feb 2018
833 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:36 pm to
That's the coaching you get with a pitcher coaching third base. Why is he even there?
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1050 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:31 am to
Little league knows that . Should not have to coach that at college play. Not coaching .
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2093 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:19 am to
So you think only a position player can be a good coach? You have to had played the position to coach it?
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