re: Rudy Macklin said it best

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Washington just took a 3-star from NOLA that we did not offer.

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and trent signed a "four star" from ms. and a three star, louisiana's top player, in isaac from pickering.

how long does it take? i say 4-5 years. a lot of people on here praise johnny jones for his success at north texas. he didn't win until year five. daddy dale didn't win here until year five.

same here..I get in arguements on FB defending Trent

I don't follow the logic. White is bad, therefore O'Bryant is bad?

I have seen no scouting reports that indicate JOB and White are remotely the same type of player. You are reaching.

White wishes he had film as dominant as JOB's.

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it's just going to take time.

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Dos, what is an acceptable amount of time, in your opinion?

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Dos, what is an acceptable amount of time, in your opinion?

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as i stated above. 4-5 years. i believe trent needs to show marked improvement next year. 15-19 wins, n.i.t. birth or possible n.c.a.a birth. year five, n.c.a.a. tourney bid and contending for s.e.c. if neither occur, then it's time to go.

i do believe it will happen. I will go as far to say, if he can land a true p.g., it will happen next year. that's a big if because he doesn't have one at this time.

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My question was more about why are we so optimistic about O'Bryant's talent when the evaluation of White was bad?

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happens all the time. highly recruited kid coming in in any sport = excitement. white has been a huge disappointment, god help anyone who thought he was the next glen davis. im still way more excited about o'bryant as a defender and rebounder than i am his ability to dominate the paint on offense. he may never be a 15+ ppg scorer though i hope im terribly wrong. white should have been a guy looked to defend and add athleticism on defense. his defense has been poor, he hasn't rebounded and his offensive game is non existent. would have loved if malcolm could score anywhere near 10 ppg and just defend, rebound and add athleticism down there. storm being injured and ineffective just takes away any inside scoring presence we could have hoped for this year. that was the 'difference maker' white SHOULD have been, not the 20 and 10 guy davis was. hamilton is an intriguing guy too, unfair IMO to be written off due to white's performances but its understandable. he's a good passer and good offensive rebounder. this team still needs a legitimate ball handler in a bad way though.

so as for the jo'b optimism...white is terrible, we have zero inside presence. im definitely glad we have some kind of prospect coming in as opposed to going into next season praying white turns into a player he'll never be. this is where you can give trent and his staff some credit in recruiting, they are getting regional talent like o'bryant, stringer, turner, derenbecker. if o'bryant was from cleveland, oh instead of cleveland, ms we're probably talking about hamilton being the savior and hoping white somehow turns into glen davis. i guess it's good to have something to be hopeful for.

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int were you trying to make when you brought attendance at Bama into this?

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The point i am trying to make is where bama's program is compared to ours. I promise a recruit going to a bama game and then coming to an LSU game he is going to bama> Someone must be promoting bama's program, TJ gives no one any reason to be excited about bb here. As a bb fan I can think of no one I would be excited to go see play on this team now or next year.

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I promise a recruit going to a bama game and then coming to an LSU game he is going to bama>

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Once again, you are making shite up. LSU has faired very well in head-to-head recruiting battles with Alabama. Turner, Stringer and O'Bryant were all offered by Alabama.

All LSU needs to do is win and the crowds will come. LSU has had packed houses during the good years over the last decade, especially for big games.

I know I get depressed by just how bad this team is. But, I do see light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully.

I did expect more from White. Then again, I didn't expect Storm to fall as drastically as he has this year due to injury. If Storm performs more like last year, maybe White performs better too. If O'Bryant and Hamilton are even decent down low, I think White can be a vital piece for next years team.
One guy that I really expected more from was Dotson. He's giving this team nothing from the offensive side. This team can't afford that at all.
As painful as it is to watch, these freshman are getting invaluable "trial by fire" this year. That should help for next years team.

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One guy that I really expected more from was Dotson. He's giving this team nothing from the offensive side. This team can't afford that at all.

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Thats really not being talked about enough