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Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:00 pm to FreeLesMiles
wouldnt be hard - think Reid was way overrated. Slow, out of position alot and killed us a few times taking bad angles.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:12 pm to Bmath
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Maybe Martin has a higher ceiling than Reid, but I highly doubt he will come in and play better
I think the exact opposite.
Reid is going to wow at the combine, but he seldom played his position correctly.
Martin won't have to perform much better than he has in his limited time to surpass Reid as a safety.
Reid's junior year was much like Dorsey's last season. I honestly think Loston had a better year this season.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:18 pm to wahoocs
Reid's problem was not physical. This past year he tried to do too much on many occasions; instead of just playing his assignment. Many times that resulted in bad angles and 4 TDs by my count.
That said, it goes with the territory of playing with a lot of inexperience around him. Very different situation from 2011 or even 2010.
Opposing QBs regularly threw at Martin when he came in the game; look at the tape. He gave up at least as many big plays as Reid, but it's not as obvious in many cases.
Martin could be very good but he, like the rest of the secondary, has a lot of work to do this spring.
That said, it goes with the territory of playing with a lot of inexperience around him. Very different situation from 2011 or even 2010.
Opposing QBs regularly threw at Martin when he came in the game; look at the tape. He gave up at least as many big plays as Reid, but it's not as obvious in many cases.
Martin could be very good but he, like the rest of the secondary, has a lot of work to do this spring.
This post was edited on 2/21/13 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:19 pm to deathvalleyrox27
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wouldnt be hard - think Reid was way overrated. Slow, out of position alot and killed us a few times taking bad angles.
Reid was a great player for LSU and made many more great plays than he did badPosted on 2/21/13 at 3:43 pm to FreeLesMiles
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Ronald Martin better than Eric Reid
i wouldnt go that far this early...
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:54 pm to deathvalleyrox27
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wouldnt be hard - think Reid was way overrated. Slow, out of position alot and killed us a few times taking bad angles.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:55 pm to WacoTiger
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Ronald Martin was burned more than any secondary guy we had this year. He missed assignments more than any of the other safeties. Go back and look at the film and you can see almost all of scores occurred when Martin came in for Loston. I'm sure he will get better with more experience and he appears to be athletic, but to say he is better than Reid is a gross misstatement. He can't even carry Reid's jock strap right now. More reaps will make him a better player.
/thread ....
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:13 pm to lil 7thward
Ronald Martin is a better coverage safety. I have been really impressed with his play. The OP is not as crazy as y'all are making him out to be. I agree he might be better cause he had to wait 2 yrs before starting and he will be a jr.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:38 pm to 41bengal
Ronald is not better than Eric at this point. Check back in a few years.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:48 pm to FreeLesMiles
I can't take you seriously
Posted on 2/21/13 at 5:02 pm to FreeLesMiles
Reid was a good player for us but he was out of position a lot and seemed a half step behind at times
Posted on 2/21/13 at 5:03 pm to FreeLesMiles
Reid in 2011 was great. Reid is 2012 was more of a liability than Hatcher was some games.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 5:05 pm to WacoTiger
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Ronald Martin was burned more than any secondary guy we had this year. He missed assignments more than any of the other safeties.
lol um no
Posted on 2/21/13 at 5:14 pm to deathvalleyrox27
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- think Reid was way overrated.
Let's see what the pros think. I think they'll prove you wrong on this one.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 5:23 pm to FreeLesMiles
Yes, Reid had a down year this past season. Still a 2x All American and last year had better #s than last years #1 FS and top 10 pick Mark Barron had his final year at Alabama.
Martin is a better gifted athlete than Reid. No doubt about it. Dude was on LSUs basketball team freshman year. But, where Reid excelled was his football IQ. He was the 1 making all the checks, he was the QB of the D last year. This is where I'm worried with Martin.
I'm very very excited about Martin and see him having a break out year, but to say he's better than Reid right now before he even becomes a full time starter is premature. Can he be better? Sure. Is he better right now? Doubt it. If Chief can coach him up and get him to know the D as good as Reid did he has all the tools to be better than Reid. But, Reid was 1 of the smartest football players LSU has had in a while.
Martin is a better gifted athlete than Reid. No doubt about it. Dude was on LSUs basketball team freshman year. But, where Reid excelled was his football IQ. He was the 1 making all the checks, he was the QB of the D last year. This is where I'm worried with Martin.
I'm very very excited about Martin and see him having a break out year, but to say he's better than Reid right now before he even becomes a full time starter is premature. Can he be better? Sure. Is he better right now? Doubt it. If Chief can coach him up and get him to know the D as good as Reid did he has all the tools to be better than Reid. But, Reid was 1 of the smartest football players LSU has had in a while.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 5:30 pm to deathvalleyrox27
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think Reid was way overrated. Slow, out of position alot and killed us a few times taking bad angles.
Only on the Rant ... is there another fanbase in America that devours it's own like LSU? A two-time All-American, and to LSU fans he's slow and overrated.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 6:55 pm to 1984Tiger
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Only on the Rant ... is there another fanbase in America that devours it's own like LSU? A two-time All-American, and to LSU fans he's slow and overrated.
Haha seriously. What more do you want? Dude got beat a few times. So what. Every DB that's ever played gets beat. Deion got beat. PP gets beat. It happens.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 7:05 pm to lsucjn
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quote: Ronald Martin was burned more than any secondary guy we had this year. He missed assignments more than any of the other safeties.
lol what?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 7:12 pm to KG5989
Reid got beat more than a few times last year and that's not what you expect out of a 2x AA.
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