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Posted on 2/23/12 at 8:53 pm to GFunk
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LOL!
Chavis put 13 or 14 DB's into the NFL & coached Berry for the majority of his career, so there's another.
LSU during his time there put 12 DB's into the NFL.
First of all Chavis isn't a position coach. He is a coordinator. Second of all, Cooper was putting South Carolina guys in the NFL lottery before he came to LSU and turned everyone in our secondary into all americans. If you don't think losing him hurts you are an idiot. Yes our D will b fine, but our secondary will drop off in a few years when the current guys leave.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:05 am to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:Exactly my thinking. Yes, we might get a great hire, but *CLM has a history of dragging his feet, and putting Malveto/Stud shaped band-aids on key staff vacancies. We all know what happened with Malveto. School's still out on Stud as OC. Position coaches like Cooper are the ones where the rubber meets the road and the players are developed, or they aren't. How long did we have a staff vacancy in the QB coach dept?
Cooper was putting South Carolina guys in the NFL lottery before he came to LSU and turned everyone in our secondary into all americans. If you don't think losing him hurts you are an idiot.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:13 am to JawjaTigah
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*CLM
What with the asterisk? I'm guessing you are trying to make some dumbass point that pretty much makes everything you say irrelevant.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:17 am to GeauxWolverines
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:19 am to BeeFense5
quote:Does it bother you? Too bad. January 9 bothers me. And I'm not alone in that.
What with the asterisk?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:23 am to JawjaTigah
Doesn't really bother me. Just makes me think you are a moron and not someone to take seriously.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:39 am to BigEdLSU
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Great for him and his family
More a RB question, but I am wondering if his son that will be a senior next year will finish up at U-High, or move to a Tampa school. Two way player for the Cubs, would be a tough loss for us.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:11 am to c on z
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Why would Cooper want to go to a dumpsterfire of a franchise anyway?
The real question is why so late? That's what hurts the most. Coaching hires have already been made for most if not all top-tier college teams. A really good secondary coach whose philosphy is not significantly different may cause new issues for an already set defense. We need to open up the wallet and get better at that position and also hire an assistant coach for recruiting purposes.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 11:55 am to BeeFense5
quote:Good. Then based on your little hissy fit over it, I must assume you can't argue with the facts I presented on my post, so you're trying to change the subject and do what so many brain-challenged rantards do here - if you don't like the message, tear down the messenger. Sorry bud, it doesn't change the facts.
Doesn't really bother me.
*CLM is not always fast in replacing key staff vacancies, or swift... case in point: Malveto, Coach Stud, and oh yes, how long was that position of QB coach left unfilled?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:05 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:
our secondary will drop off in a few years when the current guys leave.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:07 pm to JawjaTigah
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*CLM is not always fast in replacing key staff vacancies, or swift... case in point: Malveto, Coach Stud, and oh yes, how long was that position of QB coach left unfilled?
Practice starts in about a week. You don't think he wants a coach in place for practice?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:13 pm to OBUDan
quote:I don't know what he wants. He's HC. I would like to believe *CLM may have had some advance inkling that Cooper was looking to go elsewhere. If so, maybe (I hope) he's already got somebody really good lined up. Or not. If not, I don't have a lot of confidence that he's going to move swiftly and decisively to fill the slot with somebody really good before Spring Practice starts. Sorry, but there is a track record... Malveto (DC)... Stud (OC)... vacant QB coach position for how long before he filled it?
You don't think he wants a coach in place for practice?
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:13 pm to JawjaTigah
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how long was that position of QB coach left unfilled?
It was filled, just by a terrible coach. Most college OCs are the QB coach as well.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:15 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
Malveto (DC)... Stud (OC)... vacant QB coach position for how long before he filled it?
I think Malveto was decided for a long time just never formally announced until after NSD b/c he wanted to take extra recruiting visits.
Stud was announced after fall ball started, just 2 weeks after Krags was diagnosed. And just b/c he was announced late doesn't mean the decision was made late.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:24 pm to JawjaTigah
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Sorry, but there is a track record... Malveto (DC)... Stud (OC)... vacant QB coach position for how long before he filled it?
You are talking about 3 separate instances.
I don't remember the exact time frame for naming Mallveto, but that may be the only example that applies to what you are implying.
Kragthorpe was hired before spring practices. He was hired after NSD so Les could take advantage of added recruiting trips leading up to signing day.
Stud was promoted due to an unforeseen health issue with Krags.
None of these really mirror naming a singular position coach.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:33 pm to OBUDan
quote:Yes I am. And I'm talking about the pattern I see in hiring staff positions. Of the three, the hire of Stud is the one I find the least concern about - it was a totally unforeseen thing that Coach Krag would have serious health issues and Stud has done what looks like a reasonably good job in this surprise role. But the QB coach vacancy went a long time before being filled - at least a season as I recall. Malveto was dragged on far longer than should have been - IMO, P & M could have been given the title "acting" co-DC. But they became the DC when it became clear *CLM either had waited too long to find a quality DC, or there were none available, or the timing of Pelini's departure to Nebraska left a time crunch that couldn't be helped. To our HC's credit, after what seemed like long seasons of futility and under fire from the fanbase, he finally relieved those two of that key role and found Coach Chavis. So I guess all's well that ends well... or something like that.
You are talking about 3 separate instances.
Maybe my impression is wrong, but I just don't see a pattern of rapid or even timely response to filling key staff vacancies with first quality coaches. Shouldn't there be some kind of on-going, unofficial "fishing" out there in coach-land - knowing that staff vacancies are always coming up? Then you wouldn't necessarily have to start off on square 1 every time.
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 2/24/12 at 1:00 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
JawjaTigah
You're not paying attention. We had a QB coach. His name was Gary Crowton. Most CFB OCs are the QB coach. There was never a QB coach opening as long as Crowton was here. (Note: I'm not saying he was a good QB coach.)
It was determined that Maleveto would be Co-DCs far before they were named Co-DCs. Pelini leaving meant we had 8 coaches on staff. Anytime you have less than 9 coaches on staff, the HC gets to make extra recruiting visits. Miles purposely did not fill the vacancy so he could make extra visits. Joe Rob was hired after NSD as the 9th coach on the staff.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 1:00 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
But the QB coach vacancy went a long time before being filled - at least a season as I recall.
wait, what?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 1:25 pm to ATLTiger
*JawjaTigah is just proving himself to be uninformed.
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