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re: Riddle me this Rant...
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:27 am to BOSCEAUX
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:27 am to BOSCEAUX
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Tebow is a once in a generation player and yet still struggles his first full year at the helm
Winning the Heisman is struggling? Tebow was a part-time player his freshman year. His sophomore year was his first year as full-time starter. He won the Heisman Trophy. Do you just make this shite up as you go?
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:27 am to BOSCEAUX
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According to rant logic Urban Meyer and Bob Stoops are shite since UF and OU both looked like putrid pieces of crap against far inferior teams.
The rant says fire Meyer and Stoops immediately
I gave him 2005 b/c of the hurricane.
The 2006 team should have won a NC as well as 2007 There were far too many blunders b/c of lack of discipline on our players and coaches fault. There is a lack of attention to detail - plain and simple.
I know we won a lot of games, blah, blah blah.
What I haven't seen is continous improvement of our talent. we should have recruits from 2007 stepping in and leading this team. What I have witnessed is no development of his players.
As far as FLA and OU. When was the last time Stoops did anything? I don't think he is a great coach. Hell, he lost to Les 2 out of 4 years.
The difference between Urban and Les is I have confidence that Urban will get his offense running in the right direction. Meanwhile, his D looked awesome and will be again this year. Don't sleep on Mississippi State... We could lose that game b/c of Mullins.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:28 am to DallasTigerFan
& is still making. Should have fired that turd last season! 
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:29 am to Nuts4LSU
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his doesn't even make sense. What are you adding to what?
Bottom line is that our offense was held scoreless in the 2nd half after scoring 21 points in the first half against a 2nd string ACC defense. We managed only 303 yards (lower than our average from last year's #112 offense), ran only 57 plays to their 79 and lost time of possession by over 9 minutes.
i crunched the numbers for last year a few months ago and do not remember the spefics right now but basically, if you take our return avg, subtract the national avg for return yards, than add HALF of that number to our offensive stats, we are in the top 50, not 112. last year if add in sp teams yards for both teams involved, ONLY bama out gained us in any game.
our offense did not get the chance to keep the ball as long or run as many plays b/c we scored and moved the bal on sp teams.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:29 am to Helmethead
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this is true...stoops and OU have been underachieving and inept at winning big games for closer to 10 years than 3......
holy shite.
Stoops took over a program that has struggled for a decade and got them back to elite status. He was won 1 NC, been to 3 other BCS CG and won 6 conference titles. Anyone who thinks he should be fired is an idiot. So is anyone who compares his record of overall accomplishments to Les Miles record.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:34 am to Jaketigger
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When was the last time Stoops did anything? I don't think he is a great coach. Hell, he lost to Les 2 out of 4 years
They were in the BCS CG in 2008 are you an idiot? Yeah they lost to a better team in Florida, they also held Florida to 24 points, Florida's lowest point total of the year.
I love how people say a coach is no good because he lost 3 title games. The 3 teams they lost to were better. 2 of the 3 were in the home state of the team they lost 2.
If you look at what Stoops has done and say he is not a good coach you are a flipping moron.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:34 am to H-Town Tiger
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Stoops took over a program that has struggled for a decade and got them back to elite status. He was won 1 NC, been to 3 other BCS CG and won 6 conference titles. Anyone who thinks he should be fired is an idiot. So is anyone who compares his record of overall accomplishments to Les Miles record.
i did not say he should be fired, just that if has excellent job security, so should Miles, had we been blown out in several bowl games, or lost to boise on national tv, or let his fan base down as much he has, he would be run out of BR. i think you helped prove my point, he is still an excellent coach, and should not be fired, yet sometimes he loses some football games, every now and then he has an average year, what was he like 2-2 vs miles while miles was at OSU?
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:43 am to Helmethead
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i did not say he should be fired, just that if has excellent job security, so should Miles,
Stoops accomplishments are far superior to what Les has done at LSU. Stoops brought OU back to elite status and kept them there. Miles took over a elite team, kept them there for 3 years and now appears to have slid into next tier status.
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had we been blown out in several bowl games, or lost to boise on national tv, or let his fan base down as much he has, he would be run out of BR.
If so, it shows a delusional and unrealistic fan base. Sure, losing a big game hurts, but if you feel let down after losing to 3 better teams, 2 you had to play in their home state in BCS CG, then you simply have unrealistic standards.
Boise is a good team and that lose was somewhat of a fluke, its not like they got blown out. Was anyone rational calling for Saban's head when they got pounded by Utah?
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he is still an excellent coach, and should not be fired, yet sometimes he loses some football games, every now and then he has an average year, what was he like 2-2 vs miles while miles was at OSU?
Again, its not just 1 bad game that has people upset with Miles. I am not saying he should be fired, but I don't like the direction we are headed. Every coach loses games, even games they "should" not, that's not the issue, its the sum total of decisions over the last few years that worries me.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:47 am to Slip Screen
quote:Nor has LSU unless you are basing this year off of one game.
Ok and Fl have not been inept for 3 years.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:53 am to H-Town Tiger
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Sure, losing a big game hurts, but if you feel let down after losing to 3 better teams, 2 you had to play in their home state in BCS CG
i guarantee you Stoops would not say "those were better teams"....
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If so, it shows a delusional and unrealistic fan base
kind of what i am saying, we have a delusional and unrealistic fan base....thanks again for pointing that out.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:56 am to Helmethead
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we have a delusional and unrealistic fan base that posts on the rant and whose average age is probably 19 1/2.
FIFY
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
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They were in the BCS CG in 2008 are you an idiot? Yeah they lost to a better team in Florida, they also held Florida to 24 points, Florida's lowest point total of the year.
I love how people say a coach is no good because he lost 3 title games. The 3 teams they lost to were better. 2 of the 3 were in the home state of the team they lost 2.
If you look at what Stoops has done and say he is not a good coach you are a flipping moron.
Did he lose to Les 2 out of 4 years? Cost his sorry arse a shot at the NC.
He also played in a conference with LESS talent overall than the SEC. His teams always had a huge talent advantage over everyone except Texas. Now that Texas has a decent Defensive Coordinator, they are owning his arse. Don't think that Tommy Tubberville won't have a shot at winning that conference. I bet in 2-3 years his teams will beat BOTH Texas and OU with DEFENSIVE PLAY.
He was BEATEN by Boise State b/c his team was not prepared well which started all of this BCS Buster crap.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:00 am to Helmethead
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i guarantee you Stoops would not say "those were better teams".
in public? Of course not, but it doesn't matter what the losing coach says. Those were better teams. Fans that bash Stoops for losing need to point out which team of LSU, USC and Florida they should have beaten.
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kind of what i am saying, we have a delusional and unrealistic fan base....thanks again for pointing that out.
except you are comparing Going 13-1 and losing in the BCS CG to going 9-4 and 8-5 in back to back year. Losing bowls games to going 8-8 in the SEC over 2 years. Taking a program that was terrible for a decade and returning it to elite status to taking over a program 2 years removed from and NC. The situations are not comparable.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:08 am to Jaketigger
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Did he lose to Les 2 out of 4 years? Cost his sorry arse a shot at the NC
yes, so what does that prove? Has Les not lost 3 in a row to Houston Nutt? The 2001 lose to Ok St probably cost OU a shot a NC that year, since then they have won several conference titles and played in 3 more BCS CG.
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Now that Texas has a decent Defensive Coordinator, they are owning his arse.
yet he has still managed to win 3 of the last 4 Big 12 titles.
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I bet in 2-3 years his teams will beat BOTH Texas and OU with DEFENSIVE PLAY.
really? What will you bet. Tubs will not be able to get the athletes he needs in Lubbock. I think he will do well, but won't be a consistent threat to UT and OU.
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He was BEATEN by Boise State b/c his team was not prepared well which started all of this BCS Buster crap.
Their QB that year was a QB they had convert to WR and had to convert back to QB. Their stud RB Peterson was back for that game after missing 2 months. The fact they lost does not mean they were unprepared. Boise is a good team, they may not go 12-0 if they played an SEC or Big 12 schedule, but they are still a good team and needed to use trick plays to beat OU. Compare that to Utah beating Alabama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:23 am to Lacour
the central issue is this: saban always seemed to know wtf he was doing....miles does not seem to know wtf he is doing
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:25 am to H-Town Tiger
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Has Les not lost 3 in a row to Houston Nutt?
Houston Nutt was recommmended by Saban to take his place at LSU FWIW b/c he is a VERY good coach. He is just a sorry recruiter. What happened this weekend will not be indicative of how his team will finish.
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yet he has still managed to win 3 of the last 4 Big 12 titles.
No NC's. Mack Brown played for the NC in 2004 and 2009. OU BACKED in in 2003 (much like LSU in 2007). The Big 12 is WAY OVERRATED. I lived in Houston for 12 years (1993-2005) and still can't believe 1/2 of the shite I heard on Sports Radio 610 and 740 about the little 12. They are of NO COMPARISON to the SEC. So yes he may have a good talent, but is not a great coach or he owns that no defense conference.
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really? What will you bet. Tubs will not be able to get the athletes he needs in Lubbock. I think he will do well, but won't be a consistent threat to UT and OU.
What do you think, they do not have a nice campus? I go to Lubbock all of the time and will be there in Lubbock in 3 weeks in fact. TT will not only recruit Texas (Dallas area specifically), but will draw players from Fla, OK, Ark, and Alabama. Do you believe he "lost" his contacts at other places? Plus his 2004 AU team is getting more run again about how good they were defensively. He will get them competetive with that league.
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Their QB that year was a QB they had convert to WR and had to convert back to QB. Their stud RB Peterson was back for that game after missing 2 months
You are REALLY an OU fan aren't you? What about 2003 with that "High Powered" offense? They got their sorry asses WHIPPED by superior coaching and less "talented" players from LSU.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:25 am to BOSCEAUX
They werent in any danger of losing Sat.....scoreboard
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