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Posted by beardedzeus
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:09 pm to
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All of his appearances have been from the middle of the season on. He plays football so he's only come along toward the end of the year.


Rice has football?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:11 pm to
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Rice has football?


Most years no.

But this year, Rice would have given LSU fits at the end of the season. I probably would have picked them to win honestly (and I follow LSU football very closely).
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:11 pm to
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He obviously has been extremely lucky with runners on seeing that he lets guys get on base but very few score.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:18 pm to
So basically, whoever gets to the bullpen first will win
Posted by 800lbgorilla
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:26 pm to
anyone know what rice and lsu records are against ranked opponents?
Posted by Trender
Member since May 2009
384 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:34 pm to
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So basically, whoever gets to the bullpen first will win


LSU has a huge edge once the bullpens are in play.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:46 pm to
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LSU has a huge edge once the bullpens are in play.


Agreed. Especially with the emergence of Nolan Cain and Bradshaw as quality arms.

Posted by EZE
Nowhere
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 1:21 pm to
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Rathjen DHs against lefties. Ryan Lewis (from BR) DHs against righties.


And Rathjen's dad played football for LSU.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10852 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 1:22 pm to
Jeremy Rathjen

Father (Craig) played football at LSU from 1983 - 1987.


The kid is still Tiger bait
This post was edited on 6/2/09 at 1:22 pm
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6614 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 1:24 pm to
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anyone know what rice and lsu records are against ranked opponents?


Against top 50 RPI:

Rice 15-6
LSU 24-8
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87541 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 1:57 pm to
Their DH, Jeremy Rathjen, is the son of former LSU fullback Craig Rathjen.
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 2:08 pm to
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But this year, Rice would have given LSU fits at the end of the season. I probably would have picked them to win honestly (and I follow LSU football very closely).


Picked them to win? Let's not get carried away. Rice had a good season by their standards but have you seen CUSA's performance in bowl games over the last few years? I believe the conference champ lost to Kentucky this past bowl season. A CUSA team may be able to beat a SEC team in baseball. But football is a MUCH different story. Too much of a talent gap between the 2.
This post was edited on 6/2/09 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 2:11 pm to
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Picked them to win? Let's not get carried away. Have you seen CUSA's performance in bowl games over the last few years? I believe the conference champ lost to Kentucky this past bowl season.




What is your deal with conferences? Conferences don't play each other... teams do. Take a look at Rice's offensive stats. Two of the top receivers (Top 5 if I remember correctly) in the country. Statistically one of the best offenses. Basically a similar scheme to Troy (yes, that Troy team) but with much better personnel. And they were hitting their stride at the end of the year.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 2:33 pm to
Stagg shut up. No way Rice would've beat LSU in football.
Posted by BigTigger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
156 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 2:36 pm to
ryan lewis is from catholic high, and was teammates with austin nola there and they are very good friends...also lewis will prolly start at DH because all are starters are right handed.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43576 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 2:47 pm to
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ryan lewis is from catholic high, and was teammates with austin nola there and they are very good friends...also lewis will prolly start at DH because all are starters are right handed.


After going back and looking at their box scores against RHP I decided to put Lewis in the projected starting lineup.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 2:51 pm to
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Stagg shut up. No way Rice would've beat LSU in football.


Yeah, that stalwart LSU pass defense would have worked wonders against one of the most prolific pass offenses in NCAA history. Nevermind that Rice's QB and WR shattered virtually every career record.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43576 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 3:20 pm to
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Rice's QB and WR shattered virtually every career record


Do rice career football record count as actual records?
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 3:47 pm to
The odds of LSU's defense stopping Rice are much greater than the odds of Rice's defense stopping LSU.
But I can understand why victories over USM, Tulane, UTEP, Army, Marshall, Houston, Western Michigan, North Texas, Southern Methodist, and Memphis would have you feeling a little cocky.
Those teams did go a combined 46-78.
The point about the conference comparison is that the bulk of Rice's prolific passing stats were accumulated in an inferior conference. While Rice had a solid year by their standards that success likely wouldn't have translated into a matchup with LSU. The talent gap between CUSA and the SEC is HUGE in football and the talent gap between LSU and Rice is equally huge. It's hard to imagine Rice enjoying that kind of success against a team with as many athletes as LSU. I'm not saying that Rice wouldn't have scored some points but there is no way they would have won the game.
Rice put up 21 pts in its one matchup with a SEC team last season (lost to Vanderbilt 38-21). I can see a similar offensive performance against LSU. But Charles Scott, Jordan Jefferson, and the LSU offense would have had a field day with Rice.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 3:49 pm to
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Do rice career football record count as actual records


NCAA career records my friend... not school records.
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