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re: Reality of Miles tenure at LSU

Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:27 am to
SABAN'S 2nd YEAR AT LSU HE SADDLED WITH shite PLAYERS LIKE...


Rohan davey
Josh reed
Bradie James
Trev Faulk
Stephen peterman
Kendrick Allen
Devery henderson
Dominik davis
Labrandon toefield
Ryan clark
Chad Lavalais
Howard Green
Randall Gay
Robert royal
Ben wilkerson
Eric Alexander
Joseph addai
Michael Clayton
Jarvis green
Marquise Hill
Rodney Reed
Marcus spears
Corey webster


AND HE LOST 3 GAMES.


Our 2002 roster was even better and he lost 5 games. This myth that saban didnt have talent in his 1st 3 year is utter bullshite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:28 am to
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can't believe I'm typing this again. WE WERE THE MIRacle on Markham away from winning the west in 2002 regardless of record with a crap QB!


Wait so if miles lost 5 games but won the west youd be ok with that?

Im calling bullshite.


quote:

ahead and go down with the USS MILES LIKE CHOCTAW AND beefense! Good luck!!!


Lol. Wow. Ive repeatedly said its time for a change but to act like he hasnt had the best tenure in lsu history os utter ignorance and i know you arent ignorant.


Also, how do you know saban wouldnt have kept losing games? He lost 3 games every year but once
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 7:31 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Wait so if miles lost 5 ganes but won the west youd be ok with that?

Im calling bullshite.


right?

how often do they discredit Miles for winning the title with 2 losses?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:32 am to
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how often do they discredit Miles for winning the title with 2 losses?


Every time its mentioned.

Im on board for a change but the constant shitting on 11 of the best years in lsu history is fricking ignorant. What kind of a fan base shits on its own accomplishments? Ive never seen it happen.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
11783 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:34 am to
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But Miles is the most successful coach at LSU
Due to sheer number of games coached and therefore number of wins, sure. Comparing championships, they are equal, though Saban did it in far fewer years than it took Miles.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:34 am to
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Im not saying Miles didnt inherit a better situation but this notion that Saban inherited a program without talent is wrong.



Of course we had talent. Its Louisiana. Football Mecca. Its my opinion that under Saban that talent was developed which led to NFL taking notice. Its also my opinion Saban changed the guard of the SECW which was 2nd fiddle to East.

coaching and recruiting are now elite in SECW. 12 years, over 6M a year and not one QB with any development.

I prefer to catch a lifeboat before it hits the iceberg. There is no indication the ship will miss it.
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:37 am to
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Due to sheer number of games coached and therefore number of wins, sure. Comparing championships, they are equal, though Saban did it in far fewer years than it took Miles.


Miles stepped into a team already set up to win a title or two.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:38 am to
quote:


Every time its mentioned. 

Im on board for a change but the constant shitting on 11 of the best years in lsu history is fricking ignorant. What kind of a fan base shits on its own accomplishments? Ive never seen it happen.




I think we got a great ROI from Les early, but last 5 years it's a losing venture. The league is too good for Miles. I think he'd do great in Big12
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36273 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Won with Saban talent first 3 years



So saban won with Dinardo's talent?
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
85118 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:44 am to
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Miles stepped into a team already set up to win a title or two.


curious to see if Miles will get credit if a new coach wins within 2 years

somehow I doubt it
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15865 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:45 am to
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He's had more success than any other LSU coach.



Problem is almost all of it was his first 3 years and almost none of it was the last 8 years. Trends, bro.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36273 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:45 am to
See my post directly above yours
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:47 am to
quote:

curious to see if Miles will get credit if a new coach wins within 2 years


Having a talented team and being able to do something with a talented team are two totally different beast.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:47 am to
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Problem is almost all of it was his first 3 years and almost none of it was the last 8 years. Trends, bro.


I think everyone, including Choctaw sees and agrees with that

but the lengths that some go to discredit everything that Miles has done in his career is pretty sad

one can both believe that Miles had great success at LSU and that his time is more than likely up

why the vitriol?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164589 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:48 am to
You're shitting on those early 2000 team's accomplishments, aren't you? "The sec was garbage back then." "They won the sec with 3 losses." The 2001 team losing to ole miss is nowhere comparable to the 07 team losing to UK and an Ark team with a losing record. Saban inherited a program off back to back losing seasons. Miles took over one year removed from a title, with two SEC titles in four years. DiNardo left some great talent but the program was fractured from top to bottom. "We won more games last five years thsn Saban's whole tenure." oh, really! How much hardware we reel in during those five years? We've fielded two of the worst offenses during that time and it has Miles' fingerprints all the frick over. Y'all who seriously try and compare the circumstances...I can't even...

To refer to LSU football from 2012-present as part of the "Golden years" is retarded. That shite slammed tf close on 1/9. Miles played his part in the success indeed but he's put himself in this position with blind loyalty and stubbornness.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:49 am to
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Having a talented team and being able to do something with a talented team are two totally different beast.


...and Miles was able to do something with that talented team, no?



Posted by TigerCurry
Member since Aug 2016
351 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:52 am to
I admit that I've been one of those people that have loved Les the majority of the time he's been here. Sure, I typically got pissed at least once a year due to the info in the OP, but I would be back to route him on come the next season. I was so blind.

This officially ended last November, and last Saturday reaffirmed that not only were the anti-Les people right last November, but those that defended Les last November were dead wrong.

At this point, any individual that is still defending Les is NOT an LSU fan - they're a Les fan, and that's it. They were and are doing as much to hurt the current status and future of LSU football program now than Les is so obviously doing himself.

Thankfully Les is so careless, complacent and downright inept at this point that we don't need a civil war to occur in our fan base. That scenario sure looked real last November, but thankfully Les has helped us avoid that now with last Saturday's showing.

I say the rest of us find and kill anyone of the few who are still supporting Les at this point...it should be easy pickens, as they're aren't many left that are that disloyal to LSU Football.

Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:54 am to
quote:

and Miles was able to do something with that talented team, no?


Over the past 4 years? Not very much, no.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Due to sheer number of games coached and therefore number of wins, sure. Comparing championships, they are equal, though Saban did it in far fewer years than it took Miles.



Win %

Most top 25 finishes.
Most top 20 finishes
Most top 15 finishes
Most top 10 finishes
Most top 5 finishes


But yeah.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85118 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Over the past 4 years? Not very much, no.


are the last 4 years what we were talking about?

no

you're just proving my point right now
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