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re: Realism for LSU Fans with McMahon and Program

Posted on 3/23/22 at 6:31 am to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 6:31 am to
If the ncaa hammers us this is on Scott for bending over and o never want to hear him being politically connected again. He has a marriage connection to the head of the ncaa, he should be able to stop a hammer unless he gave up LSU to help mark e.

Wade set the bar win the sec in year 2, I’ll give Mr. McMahon until year 3.
Posted by Tiger in Co
On the road
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 6:37 am to
The alleged allegations have not been proven you have heard what they want you to here
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:12 am to
How has LSU admitted guilt?

Wade had a clause in his contract that said if he had allegations brought against him he could be fired.

LSU could believe Wade is innocent and still fire him. Like you said, just deny deny deny. How is it any different now? Firing your coach isn’t an admission of guilt, any good lawyer could defend that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:16 am to
No more smoke and mirrors, finally a good fundamentals coach, good day for LSU basketball.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 7:17 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15527 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:21 am to
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Woodward has now allowed the NCAA to destroy us.


Followed along until this

Clearly some sort of delusional viewpoint if you think Woodward controls the ncaa.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:25 am to
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Wade set the bar win the sec in year 2, I’ll give Mr. McMahon until year 3.


All McMahon has to do at LSU to top Wade is win more than a couple of NCAA tourney games.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22354 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:30 am to
He has a marriage to the head of the ncaa in his family. We are told he is mister politics. I expect when you have those connections you can work some magic.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30060 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:30 am to
I respect your opinion on LSU basketball as much or more than anyone on this site. I agree with most of what you said, with exception to the coach we hired. McMahon was a home run in this situation. Honestly a much much better quality coach than anyone I thought we would get. I knew we would lose all our recruits, which has already happened as mentioned.

I also felt we would lose every player from this team………Little more optimism in that respect now ……. Lets see if we can salvage anything.

I was and am still very upset with the media’s involvement with the Wade situation. Every year right before NCAA tourney they blew this issue up……….something was going on here and it was obvious. The NCAA to a lessor extent as well here as schools like Arizona, Kansas, UNC, and Duke are all untouchable with crap like this.

Personally I am not upset with LSU admin here. Normally I would be, but Woodward is family with Emmert. You are right that they could very well hammer us anyway, but it is also very well possible Scott was told “look, you have to do this………or else” behind closed doors. If all we get from this, is what they put in McMahon’s contract then we will know IMO.

Wade was a great coach for LSU. Floored me that this all happened (with NIL deals in play now). He did what all the elite schools were doing. He was as good off the basketball court with team development as could be possible in my opinion. He obviously wasn’t seasoned enough with how to carry out recruiting on that level without covering his/LSU’s own arse. Where McMahon is a home run hire is ON the court in my opinion (practice and game day coaching) I do not think there will be a drop off in this area……..he may even be better than Wade in this regard.
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
463 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:32 am to
Wade set the bar?? You might want to do some research son. I was 12 years old in The Omni in Atlanta when we cut down the nets as the lowest seed ever at that time to make the final 4. Wade had 1 freakin ncaa tournament win. Learn your history boy
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15527 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:39 am to
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He has a marriage to the head of the ncaa in his family. We are told he is mister politics. I expect when you have those connections you can work some magic


The magic is in being able to know what needs to be done to self correct a program, which was noted to be lacking institutional control. That means a lot of coaches were off the rails And no one was keeping them in line.

Wade was one of those coaches.

You think keeping him was the better move? That would teach the ncaa a lesson? That would have shown them who’s boss?

Anyone that thinks keeping wade was a good idea is wrong. Keeping wade was going to poke the ncaa in the eye. It would have meant stronger sanctions.

What Woodward had been doing is cleanup around here. Unfortunately It was necessary.

Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22354 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:40 am to
Boy I will bitch slap you all around over basketball history. Wade has set the modern bar to turn around basketball at 2 seasons to win the sec. Wade had a team that was final four good in 19 and alleva wasted it by being a coward. When is the last time LSU would have made 4 straight tournies?

Wade had 19, we had 20 if one was hosted, 21 and 22.

Sadly wade only got to coach one of them. Coward AD, covid, got to coach and was under seeded, and AD that sacrificed him because our Buffon football coaches got us in more trouble.

Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
463 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:40 am to
Please don’t come to the pmac ever again. As a season ticket holder and someone that supports LSU basketball, we don’t need your negativity right now. I will root my Tigers and support LSU athletics with my money and my heart. Smytdb
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
463 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:44 am to
Lil boy the nit don’t count. Daddy dale made 13 ncaa tournaments in a row. Every year son. 2 final fours. The only sec tournament championship in ncaa history. Cmon with it boy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:45 am to
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Wade has set the modern bar
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22354 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:45 am to
The ncaa is a wounded animal right now with the mega conferences rising. Also historically ignoring and fighting them works best. LSU bent over once before and they hammered us. UNC had fake classes and the ncaa did nothing, Kansas told them frick off and have self a lifetime contract. Auburn bent over once in the 90s and got railed since then they flaunted cam newton and have Bruce Pearl who has had multiple run ins with the ncaa including having a point shaving issue.

I’m not saying we had to keep wade, just if we are going to fire him and we have the head of the ncaa as a family member and former coworker at LSU then we damn well shouldn’t be getting drilled.

Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
463 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:45 am to
4 tournaments in a row. Learn your history boy
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15527 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:45 am to
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Y’all can say Wade messed up and caused this, but woodward signed off on this death sentence.


This has to be a joke right?

The cause of all this is a lack of institutional control. Control of what? Control of coaches doing stupid shite. Wade was one of those coaches. He should have been fired. It could be argued that he should have been fired by aleva to prove that he had control.

So really alleva set this program back. He set it back by not having control of guys like wade who made some of the most idiotic decisions I have ever seen by a coach. Keeping wade would not have resulted in the ncaa going lighter on us. It would have been worse.

Kids want to play in the tournament. True. Keeping wade would have made that impossible and more.

Wade is a punk. He is arrogant, aloof, insubordinate and overall selfish. He set this program back by being a Dick.

He needed to go.
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
7760 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:48 am to
The first paragraph in the op’s post started out with some promise. Then the accusations and definitive statements about things you would have no way of knowing flowed and you lost all credibility. 0/10
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:50 am to
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I’m not saying we had to keep wade


There's not a goddamned soul at LSU that is going to put their job on the line for Will Wade, a man they all have contempt for. The only people that evidently think Wade is some God is these really dumb LSU fans who are giddy about a guy who cheated more than any coach in recent history, was retarded about it and still couldn't win more than one fricking tourney game.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22354 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:50 am to
Wade was the fastest to 100 wins and won a sec reg season title in two years. Which is more impressive than a tourny title. Also try reading retard didn’t include the nit, just facts that 19-22 LSU was in the tourny every year. It’s a consistent product we haven’t seen since Dale in the 80s. Who had Shaq and others and failed to do anything with them.

Brady had a sweet 16 and final four but never built anything.

Johnson had his sec title and then nothing.

JJ had a huge pile of shite for the most part.

Wade took a 2 win team and got them a nit then followed up with a sec champion/ sweet 16 team (likely final four without joe fricking it up), tourny positioned team of mark e wasn’t a pussy that canceled spring sports, tourny team and tourny team.

Wade was building a consistent product and anyone that denies that is flat out wrong. All you have to do is look at LSU basketball from 1990 on and you won’t find a better stretch, you can find the final four but we followed that up with nothing.

The last time LSU was as consistently good in basketball was Dale Brown in the 80s. Who also got in trouble with the NCAA.
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