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Posted on 5/27/10 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by BoomWHODAT
NEW ORLEANS
Member since Feb 2010
527 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 8:54 pm to
when will the terrible LSU fake fans die new fans please ..louisiana have the worst ignorant fans in the world..
Posted by Flyin Tighas
FWB in the 850
Member since Sep 2009
1780 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:10 pm to
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when will the terrible LSU fake fans die new fans please ..louisiana have the worst ignorant fans in the world..



Posted by LSUis0ver9000
Member since Apr 2010
2438 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 2:21 am to
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What if he just stopped showing up for practice and games?
What if he had a drug problem?
What if he murdered someone and couldn't play football?

To say signing bonuses should never be repaid is ignorant.

I think as long if he is on the team, then he'll get the guaranteed money. He was on the team for 3 years. The 1st year was 7 millions + signing bonus. 2nd year was 10m, so he made 22 millions in two years. He got 9.55 millions from 3rd year (doing nothing) but he was ON THE TEAM.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 3:04 am to
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I doubt JR signed a changed contract which would take his money away


THIS!!

I can't think of any plausible scenario where JR's agents would allow him to basically give away $9 million of guaranteed money.

NO chance.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 3:08 am to
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To say signing bonuses should never be repaid is ignorant


How'd you get that from what you quoted:

quote:

in no way, shape, or form should Jamarcus have to repay GUARANTEED money



You took a comment he made and made some pretty silly assumptions, lol.
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 7:11 am to
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Caveat Emptor.



Lawyer bitching about lawyer's.

Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24421 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 7:16 am to
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Good for them. He was a miserable FAILURE!!!!


The Raiders made the decision to pay him a buttload of money and both parties agreed to it. There is no guarantee that the QB will turn out to be the next Peyton Manning. It's always a gamble.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 7:24 am to
This just highlights the utter stupidity of paying so much money to unproven players. The pay structure in professional sports is plain ridiculous.

The same player holding out for eight million a year would play for $150,000 if that's all he could get because there is nothing most of these players could do to earn $150,000 outside of sports. I don't blame the players, I blame the owners for allowing it to get so out of hand.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 7:51 am to
Did Master P negotiate his contract?
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard 9-4
Member since Oct 2003
5565 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:35 am to
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Has nothing to do with discussion or speculation....has everything to do with people stating something as fact w/o the necessary information.
That is very common on this board. Most of the rantards think every highly recruited football player should be starting as a freshman and our coaches are only playing an upperclassman players because of seniority. They state this as fact all the time. The rantards, however, have never seen a practice or been in a team meeting. They don't have a clue as to how much of the playbook a freshman has been able to pick up or the amount of information the coaching staff is asking him to learn to play his position.
Posted by Hulk Hogan
Member since Jun 2008
2487 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:50 am to
The Radiers still owe JR money.

quote:

He had been paid about $36.4 million through last season and was still owed $3 million at the time of his release.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33137 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:58 am to
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Raiders want refund
I say we give him back his one year of eligibility so that he can come back to LSU and finish up his senior year, so that he can learn how to play the game. Something he should have done in the first place.
Posted by LSUROCKS52
Rest in Peace
Member since Oct 2003
56 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:32 am to
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You're out of your element here, Donny.



don't frick with da jesus
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:40 am to
link is dead
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61941 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:04 am to
Regardless of whether or not the Raiders have a case, it just seems like a poor business decision and reeks of petty "revenge." What sought after free agent is going to go to an organization who treats players like this? Also, future #1 picks might pull a John Elway or Eli Manning on them and just refuse to go. Or at the very least hold out for a more iron-clad guarantee. The didn't do their homework and made a terrible pick, now they should just take ittake it and move on.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11276 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:10 am to
This is not about getting their money back. That would be stupid. Guaranteed money is what it is. This about retaliation at JR and hopes this will hurt his chance to get on with another team. Al Davis scorched earth move. Pretty classless IMO. I hate defending JR but he failed as a player on the field only.
Posted by coontiger
Guthrie,OK
Member since Apr 2010
137 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:14 am to
----------------------------------------------------Do they have any valid claim to this?

Guaranteed money is guaranteed. He didn't fail a drug test, he sucked------------------------------
Maybe they claim this under the "lemon law" Too bad he sucked so bad........no work ethic is no excuse .........very bad investment
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293536 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 12:23 pm to
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That's the point. People who don't know jack shite about the contract are saying it's guaranteed. Only people who know the wording are the Raiders and Russell.



Exactly. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78216 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 12:30 pm to
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This about retaliation at JR and hopes this will hurt his chance to get on with another team. Al Davis scorched earth move.


Al did the same thing when he fired Shanahan and Kiffin, the Raiders just like to embarass themselves.
Posted by chilidog
BR
Member since Dec 2006
186 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 1:05 pm to
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You only have 6 posts. GTFO


And you have over 15,000 posts...get a life.
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