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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:26 pm to
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PP7WasInbounds


do you know Murray Divot?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Personally I think LSU wins every game they are favored, and gives Bama a run for their money. What do y’all think?


thats exactly what people should expect. although still difficult, the schedule sets up nicely outside of the Bama game

eta - props on the username
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Anything short of a 10-2 regular season would unquestionably be a major failure
Would ending the season 10-3 vs 11-2 make a difference to you or you dont' care how the overall season goes just as long as the reg season is good? To me there is a big diff in how I feel about the program with a 11-2 season vs a 10-3 season.
Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:28 pm to
I am going to pretend like you are not suggesting that because one player on the 2011 defense had a legendary season, that makes the entire 2011 defense better than the entire 2019 defense.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Fehoko, Lawrence, Divinity, Phillips, Chaisson, Fulton, Stevens, Delpit, and Stingley were all ranked as a 5 star by at least one recruiting service.

Not sure 2011 defense could boast that.


and I'd trade almost all of them for one badger.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:29 pm to
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no it doesn't bc the competition is far greater now.


no way man.

2011 -
-Arky was ranked #3 when we played, they will not be good this year
-Pac12 champ Oregon
-SEC east champ UGA
-Top 15 West Virginia


edit to remove Ole miss...but the rest stands.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by skullhawk
My house
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Ole miss was WAY better in 2011 than they will be this year.


that was one of the worst Ole Miss teams in history


quote:

-SEC east champ UGA



which would be the same for this team if they went to the SECCG


2019 schedule is tougher IMO. Florida and Auburn sucked in 2011. A&M will be a tougher out than than Arky team IMO. MS schools are better now as well.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:33 pm to
yeah scratch that, got my years mixed up
Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:33 pm to
Not sure how a schedule with the Big East champ the PAC 12 champ, and the national champ isn’t tougher but whatever.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44561 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:34 pm to
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-Top 15 West Virginia



Big East champ actually

quote:

-Ole miss was WAY better in 2011 than they will be this year.



they were 2-10, 0-8 that year. and Nutt had quit by the time we played them, which made the team quit in that game. they were awful, we coulda scored 70 if Les had just kept running the normal offense.

while we're here...

#MettScored
#NeverForget

Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:36 pm to
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A&M will be a tougher out than than Arky team IMO.


so aTm will be better than 11-2 and #5 at seasons end?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Not sure how a schedule with the Big East champ the PAC 12 champ, and the national champ isn’t tougher but whatever.


It was a great schedule. Would have been the toughest of any champion had LSU pulled it off.

I just think top to bottom 2019 schedule is tougher. 2011 Florida, Auburn, State, Tenn, and Ole Miss weren't beating LSU that year. Those were bad teams.

For 2019 I just don't see the cakewalks when I look at the schedule. I'm also assuming a lot so this is all speculation. There's probably a team on the schedule we think will be good who'll suck and there's probably a game we think will be a blowout that will turn out to be a dogfight.
Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:38 pm to
I wonder how many fans have looked at A&Ms schedule. I get it, how many LSU fans are going to take the time to look at Aggies schedule?

Aggies will go 7-5 this year. Fact.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:39 pm to
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If this team has all the talent of the 2011 team, and I think they definitely do, then saying 10-2 is ok directly contradicts that.


One reason may be due to the fact that we have only had 5 one loss (no tie) seasons in the last 100 years. So to act like the season was some kind of failure by not reaching that goal is a bit unreasonable. If that is the criteria then this program has been mired in failure for 95% of the last century.

But I like your optimism and I also don't think that 15-0 is out the realm of possibility
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32735 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:40 pm to
The 2019 team has a better QB than the 2011 team did and potentially a better defense. No reason that the success of 2011 can't be replicated.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:40 pm to
The 2011 team play with swag every single game except for the natty. If this year's team can play with the same type of swag and nastiness, then yes, they can go undefeated.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23042 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:41 pm to
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so aTm will be better than 11-2 and #5 at seasons end?


yep

That Arky team was the product of a favorable schedule. They were damn good but had no business being ranked that high.

2019 A&M has better players and a better coach.

quote:

I wonder how many fans have looked at A&Ms schedule.


which has nothing to do with how easy the game will be in November
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:44 pm to
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LSU goes 11-1 and Bama beats an undefeated UGA in the SEC CG, does 11-1 lsu or 12-1 UGA get the 4 seed?


what were the scores?

Was lsu on the bama 6 when time expired.

How did georgia and lsu do vs tamu?

Those are very good common opponents.

And are all the other p5 champs undefeated or 1 loss or are p12 2 loss?

Does Texas stand as b12 champ with only loss at home to lsu?

Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10486 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:46 pm to
11-1 is really the only acceptable outcome (other than 12-0). Losing another game in which we're favored (therefore 10-2) can depend on so many factors not the least of which are injuries to key personnel. And then, of course, there's the bad game like UF last year and in 2016.

Anything less than 10-2 is unacceptable.
Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:51 pm to
Trying to use all 126 years of LSU football is not fair for reasons that should be entirely too obvious to point out.

How many years in those 125 did LSU have a 5th year senior QB, 16 returning starters, and both the offensive and defensive coordinator returning?
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