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re: Question for the Lee supporters
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Points? wanna compare points on the board?
The argument was that Lee gives us a chance to score and Jefferson doesn't....which is wrong.
I personally think all this QB bullshite is pointless because its the o-line thats the problem....or was last year anyways.
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:50 pm to Choctaw
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I personally think all this QB bullshite is pointless because its the o-line thats the problem....or was last year anyways.
Wow.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:58 pm to Choctaw
Problem is you folk have picked sides, and players without realizing both of these "kids" are regressing way beneath their abilities. But yeah, lets put one young man down so "your guy" will look better.
Its the coaching, just the damn lack of coaching. If you disagree, you are in the vast minority.
Its the coaching, just the damn lack of coaching. If you disagree, you are in the vast minority.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:04 pm to amiznit
For the love of God it's not that he gets a pass... And it's not about white or black or any stupid reason idiots throw out there...
Every idiot that says we have had a better running game in 08' than 09' doesn't look at anything but the stats... When Lee was QB in 08' we had a legit shot at making a big play on Offense thru the air because we had a QB who took the chances and pulled the trigger to make them... Although not always succeeding, it was there... If the defense didn't ackowledge it our 08' offense would have burned them
Last year we had an inneffective passing game which let other teams load the box and stuff the run... We had a QB who second guessed himself and held on to the ball and took sacks forcing far too many long 3rd downs and 3 and outs... Any DC with a brain could see that all he had to do was stuff the run game and have just an adequate pass defense and you have us shut down... Which showed in a 108th ranked offense
Jarret made me boil so many times in 08' I couldn't think straight... But last year Jordan almost made that team unwatchable... It was dull,, predictable, and frustrating
I'm no Lee supporter or Jefferson supporter, I ultimately root for LSU as a whole... And looking at both seasons and QBs, LSU was a far better team to root for in 08' than 09'... Last year was as frustrating as it got for LSU football... And while no matter who is at QB, or head coaching, I'll still always cheer my fricking tail off and never leave at half time or during a close game regardless of the opponent... It was pathetic last year watching everyone bail while we were down at halftime to La Tech
Every idiot that says we have had a better running game in 08' than 09' doesn't look at anything but the stats... When Lee was QB in 08' we had a legit shot at making a big play on Offense thru the air because we had a QB who took the chances and pulled the trigger to make them... Although not always succeeding, it was there... If the defense didn't ackowledge it our 08' offense would have burned them
Last year we had an inneffective passing game which let other teams load the box and stuff the run... We had a QB who second guessed himself and held on to the ball and took sacks forcing far too many long 3rd downs and 3 and outs... Any DC with a brain could see that all he had to do was stuff the run game and have just an adequate pass defense and you have us shut down... Which showed in a 108th ranked offense
Jarret made me boil so many times in 08' I couldn't think straight... But last year Jordan almost made that team unwatchable... It was dull,, predictable, and frustrating
I'm no Lee supporter or Jefferson supporter, I ultimately root for LSU as a whole... And looking at both seasons and QBs, LSU was a far better team to root for in 08' than 09'... Last year was as frustrating as it got for LSU football... And while no matter who is at QB, or head coaching, I'll still always cheer my fricking tail off and never leave at half time or during a close game regardless of the opponent... It was pathetic last year watching everyone bail while we were down at halftime to La Tech
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Does anybody on here believe that JJ presents any deep ball threat to opposing defenses ?
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:06 pm to RileyTime
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I'm no Lee supporter or Jefferson supporter, I ultimately root for LSU as a whole.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:08 pm to learnthehardway
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JJ presents any deep ball threat to opposing defenses
He can throw it, but it will be off target.
People fail to remember JJ didn't beat out JLee. JLee played/passed himself onto the bench with INT/Pick6. JJ will hold the ball and take a sack before getting benched for the same reason he got to start.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:10 pm to HONDEAUX
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Just trying to lift some of my fellow ranters out of the profanity pit . . .
you should teach some of them how to properly type... It's tough reading sometimes
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Problem is you folk have picked sides
So true. A number of posters, you know who you are, have hitched their wagon to one of the quarterbacks. Since they have bashed either JL or JJ in the past, they are now unable to change their stance, regardless of performance.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:21 pm to tigervet4
Both QB's problems stem from the same thing. They can't read defenses.
Its not the QB's fault if they are in the system two years and cannot read a defense.
Its not the QB's fault if they are in the system two years and cannot read a defense.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Is there such a thing as a LSU fan that isn't a Lee supporter or Jefferson supporter? True LSU fans wish the best for both. This is getting stupid.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:26 pm to crowbar832001
quote:Does it have to be one or the other?
Is there such a thing as a LSU fan that isn't a Lee supporter or Jefferson supporter?
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:40 pm to tigervet4
Lee was thrown into action as a freshan unlike JJ. He didnt play well against arkansas in 08, and we just totally ran up and down the field against gt. but last year he absolutly did nothing. JL on the other hand made mistakes as a fresham but also showed pretty good ability. Go look at Mathew Staffords stats as a freshman(even worse than JL). Give Lee time and he will end up a decent quarterback for this team...Definatly better than JJ
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:58 pm to big70
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he would also throw pick sixes that kept you out of the game which was exactly the case in the spring game when he had the ability to not have to worry about getting hit.
Did you watch the play? The play was open and the receiver could have caught the ball. Ball was a little high but catchable. Loston made the play he should make. Not the typical JL int. from the past.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:07 pm to RileyTime
Here are the Cold Hard Facts:
Jarrett Lee in 2008 (in games he started): 143 out of 269 (53.2%), 1,873 yards (170.3 ypg), 14 TDs, 16 INTs, Rating: 116.9, Sacked 8 times for 74 yards. In games he started, LSU averaged 20 1st downs, 378 yards and 30.4 points
Jordan Jefferson in 2009: 182 out of 296 (61.5%), 2,166 yards (166.6 ypg), 17 TDs, 7 INTs, Rating: 137.2, Sacked 34 times for 232 yards. In games he started, LSU averaged 17 1st downs, 304 yards and 24.8 points
I really don't know what this says other than neither has been great. I really hope one of them steps up this year (or Chris Garrett or Zach Lee or whoever) because we've got skill players up the yin-yang.
Jarrett Lee in 2008 (in games he started): 143 out of 269 (53.2%), 1,873 yards (170.3 ypg), 14 TDs, 16 INTs, Rating: 116.9, Sacked 8 times for 74 yards. In games he started, LSU averaged 20 1st downs, 378 yards and 30.4 points
Jordan Jefferson in 2009: 182 out of 296 (61.5%), 2,166 yards (166.6 ypg), 17 TDs, 7 INTs, Rating: 137.2, Sacked 34 times for 232 yards. In games he started, LSU averaged 17 1st downs, 304 yards and 24.8 points
I really don't know what this says other than neither has been great. I really hope one of them steps up this year (or Chris Garrett or Zach Lee or whoever) because we've got skill players up the yin-yang.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:20 pm to Tigerdeck83
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Lee was thrown into action as a freshan unlike JJ. He didnt play well against arkansas in 08, and we just totally ran up and down the field against gt. but last year he absolutly did nothing. JL on the other hand made mistakes as a fresham but also showed pretty good ability. Go look at Mathew Staffords stats as a freshman(even worse than JL). Give Lee time and he will end up a decent quarterback for this team...Definatly better than JJ
definition of ranter
lee was throw into the fire as a freshman (redshirt) yet Jefferson wasn't? Lolz
This post was edited on 3/30/10 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:21 pm to Doc Fenton
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Lee's games were as a freshman, and Jefferson's games were as a sophomore
Do ya'll not realize Lee is going into his 4th year this season and Jefferson his 3rd.
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The offense performed better in '08 under Lee than it did in '09 under Jefferson.
That is really unfair considering the suckage of the 2009 OL compared to 2008. The offense actually averaged 35 points in his two starts against Afky and GT. Jefferson also didn't rack garbage points and yards due to being way behind.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:24 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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and 24.8 points
Does that include special teams and defensive pts, cuz in 2008 LSU had none of those
Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:35 pm to RobbBobb
RobbBobb,
I did not subtract out any special teams or defensive points.
I did not subtract out any special teams or defensive points.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:52 pm to Choctaw
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I personally think all this QB bullshite is pointless because its the o-line thats the problem....or was last year anyways.
Then why has Jefferson struggled all spring?
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