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Question About the Squib/Pooch Kick Offs
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:32 am
Why not just kick the ball out of bounds to put the opponent on the 35 instead of giving them the potential to advance the ball? Some of the recoveries seem to be around the 40.
Is it because of the chance for the opponent to mishandle the ball?
To make it seem less like LSU is conceding because of poor ST play?
To send more of a message by Les to BDP?
Is it because of the chance for the opponent to mishandle the ball?
To make it seem less like LSU is conceding because of poor ST play?
To send more of a message by Les to BDP?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:34 am to shutterspeed
They sucked. Better chance to recover an onside kick than that bullshite.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:35 am to shutterspeed
A well executed pooch should put them at the 25 or 30. Like almost every other special team play our pooch kicks were awful!
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:36 am to shutterspeed
Was saying the same thing. I will say this, our KO approach and coverage is about as poor as I have ever seen it.
We can't find one MFer in the entire student population that can't kick the ball into the end zone?
We can't find one MFer in the entire student population that can't kick the ball into the end zone?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:46 am to shutterspeed
there were some people blaming players yesterday for the frickupa on special teams.
what they don't realize is that its a systemic issue, not down to the player level. the dude in charge of running a competent special teams unit is doing a horrific job.
the fact that we are conceding 15-20 yards of field position because his unit can't cover kicks is absolutely mind numbing. Miles is not the type to fire people, but BDP absolutely cannot be on staff next year.
btw, did anyone notice on 4th and short yesterday, I think in the second half. BDP was ready to send in the punters real quick and miles shut his arse down by keeping the offense on the field and wanting to draw them offsides. BDP looks at miles and says 'my bad' and we proceed to waste so much time that a timeout needed to be taken.
just goes to show you how clueless that dude is.
what they don't realize is that its a systemic issue, not down to the player level. the dude in charge of running a competent special teams unit is doing a horrific job.
the fact that we are conceding 15-20 yards of field position because his unit can't cover kicks is absolutely mind numbing. Miles is not the type to fire people, but BDP absolutely cannot be on staff next year.
btw, did anyone notice on 4th and short yesterday, I think in the second half. BDP was ready to send in the punters real quick and miles shut his arse down by keeping the offense on the field and wanting to draw them offsides. BDP looks at miles and says 'my bad' and we proceed to waste so much time that a timeout needed to be taken.
just goes to show you how clueless that dude is.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:48 am to shutterspeed
Hoping to recover is my guess
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:50 am to The Egg
I saw that. Weren't we actually penalized for delay of game, though?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:51 am to shutterspeed
quote:yeah now that I think about it, you're prob right.
Weren't we actually penalized for delay of game, though?
just one of that head scratchers.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:55 am to The Egg
I don't think that was a big deal. Delay of game might have been on purpose to give the punter more room.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:56 am to shutterspeed
quote:
I saw that. Weren't we actually penalized for delay of game, though?
I felt as though LM did it on purpose -- if we were able to draw them offsides, first down. If not, our punt would only be 5 more yards. NBD
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:59 am to K2LAW
quote:yeah, no big deal. just the execution of it was weird, it was like they didn't give them much of a chance to draw them offsides bc of the sideline confusion.
if we were able to draw them offsides, first down. If not, our punt would only be 5 more yards. NBD
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:34 am to Penrod
quote:
A well executed pooch should put them at the 25 or 30. Like almost every other special team play our pooch kicks were awful!
How does that help us with poor KO coverage, though? Seems like we might as well just kick out of bounds with no potential for a return--especially if we apparently can't execute a squib, either.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:38 am to shutterspeed
I also question the punts at USC's 35 yard line and thereabouts. It's painfully obvious at this point that Keehn has no ability to make good punt placements, which means that we sacrificed scoring opportunities for meager 13 and 15 yard changes in field position.
The pooches showed that we're willing to give them the ball on kickoffs at the 35 yard line, anyway, so why not just go for the first downs when we have the ball down there?
The pooches showed that we're willing to give them the ball on kickoffs at the 35 yard line, anyway, so why not just go for the first downs when we have the ball down there?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:39 am to shutterspeed
What happened to Gamble? I thought he had this monster leg and could kick it through the end zone each time?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:43 am to Rex
quote:I actually agree here. if we're punting at their >35-40 and consistently punting into the endzone, with a net of 10-15 yards when all is settled, you might as well go for it. keehn's had a hard time just 'chipping' his punts to inside the 15 onward.
I also question the punts at USC's 35 yard line and thereabouts. It's painfully obvious at this point that Keehn has no ability to make good punt placements, which means that we sacrificed scoring opportunities for meager 13 and 15 yard changes in field position.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:45 am to mtnhighTiger
quote:
What happened to Gamble?
That was the question of the day. I seem to remember him kicking it out of the end zone a few times last season. Seriously, it's gotten so bad that maybe we should open up a contest to the entire student body. LOL
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:50 am to The Egg
What's up with Bradley Dale Peveto? He failed as a DC, and as head coach at Northwestern. His tenure as special teams coordinator looks shaky.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:00 am to canyon
quote:I have four years of eligibility left!!
We can't find one MFer in the entire student population that can't kick the ball into the end zone?
Class of 83
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:01 am to tarzana
it's seems like the "strategy" is to kick it short to have a chance to pin the opposing team close to their own endzone or something? problem with that is by the time the KR catches it, he's already on the 10 yard line and the coverage unit isn't getting to him until the 30 yard line if at all.
just makes more sense to kick it out of the back of the endzone at this point and stop experimenting with this idea that the coverage team is going to pin any teams deep. they can't execute. have the team start at the 25 every time.
just makes more sense to kick it out of the back of the endzone at this point and stop experimenting with this idea that the coverage team is going to pin any teams deep. they can't execute. have the team start at the 25 every time.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:04 am to The Egg
I've seen only one poster defend that particular punt on here.
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