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re: Quarterman and Epps
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:50 am to BallChamp00
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:50 am to BallChamp00
Before season. Like everyone was thinking.
After the first two weeks.
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Right now, many general managers are high on Quarterman’s potential as an NBA player because of the size and somewhat because of his skill. However, he’s going to need a really impressive junior season, especially in the scoring column. That type of improvement in his game and more in particular on his jump shot could have him in the lottery.
After the first two weeks.
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I’ve already looked at the top performances from NBA draft prospects early in the season, but what prospects are trending in the opposite direction as we continue in the non-conference slate of the schedule? It should be noted that it’s still very early in the season and plenty will change, but there are a number of players disappointing scouts in the early going. With that being said, here are my top prospects who have struggled thus far.
Tim Quarterman 6-6 190 PG/SG LSU Junior Season Stats: 10.8 ppg, 3.5 APG, 3.3 RPG
As one of the few upperclassmen on LSU, Quarterman was supposed to lead alongside one of the most talented freshman in the country in Ben Simmons. Quarterman has really struggled through three games this year adjusting to Simmons’ style of play, trying to play off the ball more than last year. Even more shocking might be the fact that his minutes have decreased from 33.6 last year to 22.7 this season.
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:53 am to HSHoopscoach
I completely agree. Everyone didn't seem to impressed with the current recruiting class that JJ put together, I guess because there is no BIG TIME SIGNEE, but I like it because it is full of players that will stay for a long time.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:42 pm to LSUDogg88
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Everyone didn't seem to impressed with the current recruiting class that JJ put together, I guess because there is no BIG TIME SIGNEE, but I like it because it is full of players that will stay for a long time.
Bridgewater, Malone and Elbert will all be here 4 years unless they transfer. The concern among some, myself included is that more of the new signees might be leaning more in that direction than the Q or Patterson direction.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:46 pm to BallChamp00
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Damn didn't know LSU had 7-8 players that are going to be playing in the NBA on this team. Nice argument using UK.
I dont know what's hard for you to understand about Quarterman has improved in just about every facet of the game so far this year. The stats CLEARLY show this. A decent bump in overall FG%, a HUGE bump in 3pt %, better at handling the ball...PER clearly up.
We had 4 guards on the team last year, we have 6 this year. OBVIOUSLY there are more minutes to be spread around. Nobody plays their best players for a full game, so your minutes argument is pretty dumb. The fact he is playing about 4 minutes less a game is not an indictment to his playing ability because he's gotten better, it's a testament to the depth we have now vs. last season. We lost zero guards from the team last year and this year added Blakeney and Sampson. Did you just expect Blakeney and Sampson to ride the bench all season?
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:42 pm to thunderbird1100
lol he is rarely even handling the ball when he plays. He is playing more off the ball. Of course he won't turn it over as much. Geez. And he is getting way more open looks with Simmons playing. He gained a whole 3 extra makes out of 100. That's phenomenal I guess.
Anyone can turn things around how u want. But he clearly isn't a first round draft pick now. And without significant strides in shooting he won't make a roster for more than a season or two. His defense regressed most.
Anyone can turn things around how u want. But he clearly isn't a first round draft pick now. And without significant strides in shooting he won't make a roster for more than a season or two. His defense regressed most.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:43 pm to thunderbird1100
Why is Hornsby playing the same minutes thus far since he been back? Lol shouldn't his drop too being we have more guards? Lmao cmon man
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:44 pm to HSHoopscoach
The one who has quietly had a good season that nobody talks about is Josh Gray. I mean he still has some wtf moments but they are few and far between now.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:49 pm to lwlsu96
Looks like he is being groomed to play point. Gray Horn Blakeny Simmons Victor would be a better line up.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:53 pm to BallChamp00
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And without significant strides in shooting he won't make a roster for more than a season or two. His defense regressed most.
you dont think he's improved his shooting?
just about every one of your posts in this thread are inaccurate, which is hard for someone to do
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:57 pm to Lester Earl
He did since year one. But it's not a good enough improvement from last year to this year to be a first rounder.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:58 pm to Lester Earl
U must not be seeing what every scout was saying after his second year. He needs to improve his shooting. He hasn't really done that.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:01 pm to BallChamp00
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He needs to improve his shooting. He hasn't really done that.
Except that he has improved both his FG% and his 3pt%. He has objectively improved his shooting. You are trying to argue against verifiable numbers.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:05 pm to BallChamp00
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U must not be seeing what every scout was saying after his second year. He needs to improve his shooting. He hasn't really done that.
3pt %
Freshman: 20%
Sophomore: 31%
Junior: 37%
FG%
Freshamn: 26%
Sophomore: 42%
Junior: 44%
what stats are you looking at?
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:08 pm to BallChamp00
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lol he is rarely even handling the ball when he plays.
So he's handling the ball less, but has even MORE assists per 40 minutes than last year
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He gained a whole 3 extra makes out of 100.
31% to 37% from 3, that's a big difference thus far
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Anyone can turn things around how u want.
Im not turning anything around, im stating facts while you're stating opinion
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:10 pm to BallChamp00
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e needs to improve his shooting
On what planet is going from 31% to 37% form 3 not an improvement in shooting?
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:29 pm to Lester Earl
42 to 44 is not the improvement they are lookin for. Lmao
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:32 pm to BallChamp00
you realize that TQ makes 50% of his 2pt FGs, right?
37% from 3 is above average. Darrell Mitchell & Marcus Thornton shot 36% as a JRs, for instance.
37% from 3 is above average. Darrell Mitchell & Marcus Thornton shot 36% as a JRs, for instance.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:34 pm to Lester Earl
U think he will get those wide open looks in the NBA? How is Jon Scheyer doing in the NBA? He couldn't create his shot like TQ can't. Just because he a good wingspan to guard 1-3's doesn't mean he will be a high pick. He has been pretty bad on D this year. Nothing like last year.
Add to that he is a liability late in close games because his free through percentage is awful.
Add to that he is a liability late in close games because his free through percentage is awful.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:38 pm to BallChamp00
is Garrett Temple in the NBA? He seems to be doing ok. Do you want to go over his shooting numbers at LSU?
Tim Quarterman is nothing like Scheyer. First of all, his athleticism is way better.
Scheyer made 43% of his 2pt baskets in college. TQ is making 50% of his.
Scheyer was a career 38% 3pt shooter(was considered a great shooter).
TQ is shooting 37%.
Tim Quarterman is nothing like Scheyer. First of all, his athleticism is way better.
Scheyer made 43% of his 2pt baskets in college. TQ is making 50% of his.
Scheyer was a career 38% 3pt shooter(was considered a great shooter).
TQ is shooting 37%.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:43 pm to Lester Earl
Temple was way better on defense. Way better!!!
Also lol at saying his 2p % was good. Lmao. 60% doesn't even get you top 150.
Also lol at saying his 2p % was good. Lmao. 60% doesn't even get you top 150.
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