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re: Quarterman and Epps
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:38 pm to SouthOfSouth
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:38 pm to SouthOfSouth
Based off of the minutes Jones is playing him. If he could have better numbers playing more minutes wouldn't he play more minutes? I'm basing it off the idea that Jones is a good coach. I mean the NBA does it all the time. Find the perfect minutes for its role players. And that seems to be TQ now.
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:41 pm to BallChamp00
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I'm basing it off the idea that Jones is a good coach.
Why?Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:47 pm to ProjectP2294
Lol. Well I'd think he know who to play when and for how long. That's different than X's and O's.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:48 pm to BallChamp00
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Lol if you average the same playing 30 minutes as you do playing 20 minutes what's ur per? The 20 is higher. His lower minutes actually help his PER.
He's a more efficient player. That's why his PER is higher.
Better FG %, Better 3 pt %, More assists per 40 minutes, less turnovers per 40 minutes
All these type of things factor into a better PER this year than last year. He's improved.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:50 pm to BallChamp00
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Based off of the minutes Jones is playing him. If he could have better numbers playing more minutes wouldn't he play more minutes?
Minutes is highly dependent upon OTHER players you have too. Quarterman played more minutes last year because we weren't as deep. He can play a little less this year because we brought in Blakeney & Sampson while losing no guards off last year's team.
We only had 4 scholarship guards on the team last year, this year we have 6.
Even the best players on UK last year didnt even play 30 minutes a game.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:50 pm to thunderbird1100
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Better FG %, Better 3 pt %
And the thing about these stats is that they can point to him becoming a better shooter or becoming a more selective shooter, or both. But any of those are an improvement.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:55 pm to BallChamp00
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Based off of the minutes Jones is playing him. If he could have better numbers playing more minutes wouldn't he play more minutes? I'm basing it off the idea that Jones is a good coach. I mean the NBA does it all the time. Find the perfect minutes for its role players. And that seems to be TQ now.
Your logic is extremely flawed. Extremely.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:17 pm to HSHoopscoach
I remember when they had to talk Quarterman out of transferring after his freshman year. You always see lots of posts where the fans are told to be patient but actually it is the players who are impatient. They are built up so big in high school as the star that they all expect to step into college ball and be the man. We saw it with Martin his freshman year and Epps didn't play but seems to want to make up for it this year.
They all want to shoot that three pointer to impress the pro scouts. Epps can perhaps hit a three pointer but he is much more accurate closer to the basket. Quarterman is a great basketball player but really not a great scorer. If he makes it in pro ball it will be because of his defense and hustle plays. Shooters are a dime a dozen in the NBA but players willing to sacrafice their bodies for the team are scarce and valuable.
So yes I like both players also but there is always room for improvement.
They all want to shoot that three pointer to impress the pro scouts. Epps can perhaps hit a three pointer but he is much more accurate closer to the basket. Quarterman is a great basketball player but really not a great scorer. If he makes it in pro ball it will be because of his defense and hustle plays. Shooters are a dime a dozen in the NBA but players willing to sacrafice their bodies for the team are scarce and valuable.
So yes I like both players also but there is always room for improvement.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:44 pm to HSHoopscoach
"Quarterman, as we know, is given to be in the league next year. "
Far from a given IMO . Doesn't possess the skills yet to make a roster. Needs to be better at everything. He's good college player that may not ever make a check in US
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:25 pm to ProjectP2294
His free throw percentage dropped more than his fg and 3 rose. Lol.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:28 pm to thunderbird1100
So he is suppose to be the leader but plays less minutes and has been primarily a role player on a bad team because other players are better? Seems like coach thinks he regressed too.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:58 pm to BallChamp00
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??? Is this the consensus? I see him as more of a long shot than a given to make an active NBA roster. Am I underrating him?
LINK
that's the most comprehensive basketball scouting website around.
he has slipped a bit as of late, from the 20's to 36
but hell yeah he's a pro.
his offense is decent, but more importantly he's a lengthy 6'6" guard who can guard PG's (as well as SG's and SF's)
just look at collis temple III. Due to his skill-set we were able to roll to the final 4 with a 5'11" SG.
The NBA is full of Damien Lillard's and Kyrie Irving's.... somebody's got to stay in front of em and contest their shot
He's a legit NBA player
Epps, on the other hand, has a legit shot to be in the league.
Now it may be the developmental league off and on, but he can guard sf's and pf's, play face-up, and apparently shoot the long ball- so he's got a chance
he seems a little more flexible than chris johnson was too
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:01 pm to HSHoopscoach
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His free throw percentage dropped more than his fg and 3 rose. Lol.
not too much of a sample size to be comparing these things yet. i mean, how many free throw's could he possibly have shot already
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:07 pm to BallChamp00
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So he is suppose to be the leader but plays less minutes and has been primarily a role player on a bad team because other players are better?
We had 4 guards on the team last year
We have 6 this year
OBVIOUSLY he wouldnt be playing as much this year, no matter how good he is. How do you not get this? He's improved in basically every area except FT shooting (big whoop). Once again, take a look at last year's UK team and tell me who played even anywhere near 30 minutes a game. Why doesnt Lebron play 48 minutes a game? Is it because his coach thinks hes not good enough too?
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:30 pm to thunderbird1100
Damn didn't know LSU had 7-8 players that are going to be playing in the NBA on this team. Nice argument using UK.
Hornsby Blakeny Simmon will all average more minutes than our leader. I'd want my leader on the court more than anyone to lead. Unless he regressed and wasn't as good as others.
Hornsby Blakeny Simmon will all average more minutes than our leader. I'd want my leader on the court more than anyone to lead. Unless he regressed and wasn't as good as others.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 8:28 am to BallChamp00
Quarterman is in the league next year. I'll ban bet on it that he's drafted (barring injury).
He's got incredible length for a PG and his shooting has improved. His ceiling is very high, especially after learning from NBA coaches.
Another thing going for him (and all LSU potential pros) is that we have Ben Simmons. Because of this, all of our games are being watched by a ton of NBA scouts. The whole roster will have constant visibility with pro teams because of this.
He's got incredible length for a PG and his shooting has improved. His ceiling is very high, especially after learning from NBA coaches.
Another thing going for him (and all LSU potential pros) is that we have Ben Simmons. Because of this, all of our games are being watched by a ton of NBA scouts. The whole roster will have constant visibility with pro teams because of this.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 8:30 am to BallChamp00
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BallChamp00
Dude, you've been proven wrong by stats and facts. Just move along. Quarterman is able to stay fresh and not play as many minutes because we have tons of guards with starting ability.
And our "leader", 100%, is Keith Hornsby.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 8:48 am to TheCaterpillar
TQ needs to continue developing and really needs to work on his off the ball defense. He seems to get lost when guarding a man without the ball.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 8:50 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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TQ needs to continue developing and really needs to work on his off the ball defense. He seems to get lost when guarding a man without the ball.
I agree with this, but NBA scouts know they can fix this. Lord knows he'll have better coaching in the pros.
His physical attributes for a PG are just too good for scouts to ignore IMO.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:44 am to TheCaterpillar
Lol so he is going after his Jr year? He is in no mock drafts I've seen for 2016. He is here for one more year.
People resorting to ban bets are awesome. And stats have not proven anything. It's proven he isn't the player u think. Lol. Hell there are articles that says he is one of the biggest disappointments thus far in CBB.
People resorting to ban bets are awesome. And stats have not proven anything. It's proven he isn't the player u think. Lol. Hell there are articles that says he is one of the biggest disappointments thus far in CBB.
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